Yes you mentioned the lawyers Ron, but you left out the damned bankers, and the need for more school teachers, such as yourself.
> On Jan 29, 2014, at 8:41 PM, "rongreenman ." <[email protected]> wrote: > > Brad, > > If you think a compressor is too much of a waste of energy then I'd suggest > getting rid of your car, going to bed at sundown, eating cold food, turning > the thermostat down to never go on, etc. Waste is using unnecessary > resources. That's a value judgement. Perhaps the cost of running a > compressor is less a cost than the potential of killing or maiming someone, > rolling multiple trucks to fight a post explosion fire, lots of land-fill > debris to process, lots of water expended and then needing processing, and > the materials to rebuild. Then there's the lawyers, and the lawyers, and > the lawyers, and the lawyers to pay for. Did I mention the costly lawyers? > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Brad Casterline > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> I'm sure future head makers could come up with an RTI so good that 20 >> seconds after Van Dame stuck a lit cigarette to it with chewing gum every >> head in the place would be ready to flow, but what good is that if the >> water takes 2 minutes to get there or the stuff that is right there is >> mixed with fuel? >> >>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 7:27 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Andy, I imagine a Dry System air compressor kicking on and off when it's >> 90F and I think waste of energy and an expansion chamber on an AF system >> only needed when it's hot as a waste of money. Freeze protection is only >> needed a few months a year I most places. We need a 3rd option! >>> >>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Andy <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Mixing was from years past. I believe the reports. I just passed on a >> job because I would only do a dry system. >>>> Andy >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 7:37 PM, Brad Casterline <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> No Scott please don't tell me how it ends, I have not seen it yet ;) >> seriously, I saw your name on that final report- are you totally Anti Anti >> freeze now, no if ands or buts? >>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Scott A Futrell <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> A child lit a couch on fire with matches and the sprinkler operated >> with the resulting fireball injuring her and her mother. Official damage >> report: limited to point of origin, except for signs and damage from >> explosion - windows blown out remote from the ignition. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do we need to say more Brad? >>>>>> >>>>>> Scott Futrell >>>>>> >>>>>> (763) 425-1001 x12 Office >>>>>> (612) 759-5556 Cell >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: [email protected] [mailto: >> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Brad >> Casterline >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 5:43 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: NFPA 25 & Antifreeze Comment(s) RETORT >>>>>> >>>>>> I doubt it offends anyone. I think the biggest factor is the size of >> the fire-- I think I could could set a wadded up pile of shop drawings on >> fire ( appropriate for many jobs I drew) and put the fire out with 100% AF. >> But I would not want to pour it out on 30,000, 100 watt light bulbs :) >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2014, at 5:34 PM, Andy-Johnston <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> After reading my last post. It was not ment to be continuous. Only >> express my fears of the short cuts the installers may take in the field. >>>>>>> Not ment to offend. >>>>>>> Andy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------- Original message -------- >>>>>>> From: Brad Casterline <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Date: 01/29/2014 12:51 PM (GMT-05:00) >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: RE: NFPA 25 & Antifreeze Comment(s) RETORT >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good point, I guess for pre-mixed we would not, we would just keep >>>>>>> pumping it in until it was full, never mind, thanks Roland... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: Roland Huggins [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:41 AM >>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>> Subject: Re: NFPA 25 & Antifreeze Comment(s) RETORT >>>>>>> >>>>>>> HUH???? What does the system volume have to do with it? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Roland Huggins, PE - VP Engineering >>>>>>> American Fire Sprinkler Assn. --- Fire Sprinklers Saves >> Lives >>>>>>> Dallas, TX >>>>>>> http://www.firesprinkler.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 28, 2014, at 6:52 PM, Brad Casterline < >> [email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And this focus on 'percent by volume' has got to be the silliest >>>>>>>> aspect of >>>>>>> this whole mess, as if we know the exact cubic feet of the inside of >>>>>>> all the pipe and fittings ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl >>>>>>> er.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl >>>>>>> er.org _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkl >>>>>>> er.org >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Sprinklerforum mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Sprinklerforum mailing list >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.firesprinkler.org/listinfo.cgi/sprinklerforum-firesprinkler.org >> > > > > -- > Ron Greenman > Instructor > Fire Protection Engineering Technology > Bates Technical College > 1101 So. 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