Every time I see the coupon, I wonder if it is the coupon from that pipe
and that hole.  I also wonder, how do  you retrieve the coupon from a
riser?




Douglas Hicks
General Fire Equip Co of Eastern Oregon, Inc

> I agree with all the should's.  Hanging the cutout is a fantastic idea,
> ain't required though which was the original question.
>
> Chris Cahill, PE*
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sprinklerforum
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> rongreenman .
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:38 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Mech Tee Installation
>
> There is the requirement, as mentioned, for a coupon retrieval system on
> the Above Ground Test Certificate. there should then be a shop SOP and a
> field SOP. Attaching the coupon to the tee is a pretty good SOP for the
> field work.
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Cahill, Christopher
> <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> What's the difference between the field cut and the shop cut? There
>> isn't an AHJ in the world that can tell if I shop drilled or field
>> drilled.  At my last company often enough we'd shop drill. Or the shop
>> welded cut out?
>> Or is someone saying they all need to be attached?  I don't see where
>> any need be. And the requirements for retrieval in no way shape or
>> form requires attachment.  How exactly to you show compliance with the
>> dimensions for groove depth and width, thread specs, etc?  'Cuz you
>> know to an extent there is slop in these and they hold at least for a
>> while outside specs. Do ya'll hang gauge templates to every fitting to
>> show compliance?
>> Do you hang a weld x-ray on each weld?  'Cuz you know there are
>> requirements that can't be readily seen if they are in compliance.  Do
>> you hang the ball peen hammer next to the 'fixed' dripping welds that
>> occasionally occur?
>>
>> Every seen the weld scraping from the factory produced pipe get
>> dropped and adhered to the inside of the next pipe in the formation
>> line?  Now if I knock them loose I can show they were removed by
>> attaching. Wonder how you show compliance if they didn't occur in the
>> first place?
>>
>> My real point in my ramblings is there comes a place where we have to
>> trust all involved did their job right.  Do things get left in the
>> pipe occasionally?  Sure do, but we need to tackle keeping the valve
>> open before we get into the minutia of the other possible failures
>> which all together don't add up to a lot of failures.
>>
>> Chris Cahill, PE*
>> Associate Fire Protection Engineer
>> Burns & McDonnell
>> Phone:  952.656.3652
>> Fax:  952.229.2923
>> [email protected]
>> www.burnsmcd.com
>> *Registered in: MN
>>
>>
>> Proud to be #14 on FORTUNE's 2014 List of 100 Best Companies to Work
>> For
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:
>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Kenneth
>> Berman
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:32 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: Mech Tee Installation
>>
>> attaching the coupon shows compliance with retrieval requirement. 2007
>> 13-
>> 6.5.5.2(2) Might as well hang it there, it's just trash.
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 5:26 PM, John Denhardt <
>> [email protected]
>> > wrote:
>>
>> > No reference in NFPA 13 that I'm aware.  Usually see the requirement
>> > in a specification.  You might want to look at a manufacturer's
>> > installation instruction sheet that is part of the listing for the
>> device.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Sprinklerforum [mailto:
>> > [email protected]] On Behalf Of JD
>> > Gamble
>> > Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 6:08 PM
>> > To: [email protected]
>> > Subject: Mech Tee Installation
>> >
>> > Does anyone know the actual Code for requiring the attachment of a
>> > drill out to a Mech Tee?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I know its good practice, but does anyone know the actual code, or
>> > is there one?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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