Larry said it great. To add - if one of them is a redundant water supply, then 
your system should be designed to the lower if the two water supplies. 

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> On Feb 19, 2015, at 6:11 PM, "Larry Keeping" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Each water supply is required to have a check valve. Initially, the water 
> from the tank, which is the higher pressure source, will provide the entire 
> supply because the lower pressure check valve remains closed. At the point 
> where the water supplies become about equal, the municipal supply will start 
> to contribute, but as the tank is depleted its pressure drops such that its 
> check valve shuts. Then the entire supply is from the municipal source.
> 
> If a calculation program allows for multiple water supply sources, it 
> shouldn't be considered to be realistic, unless everything is equal (ie. two 
> identical fire pumps assemblies) because in reality one supply will have a 
> higher pressure than another, thus shutting its opposite CV. 
> 
> On the assumption that one supply will have higher pressure but lower volume 
> and the other has lower pressure with higher flows, two separate calculations 
> should be conducted, one for each water supply scenario. One with the tank at 
> its worst case/lowest water level and one for the municipal supply.
> 
> The idea of having two water supplies is not to use them together, it is for 
> redundancy, in case one of the sources becomes unavailable.
> 
> Larry Keeping
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: RE: Hydraulic Calculations with two water sources
> 
> Hi Mark,
> The City water main is not gravity fed only the secondary supply is from a 
> gravity fed tank. There is an existing check valve at the City Main.
> 
> Paul B. Cetani
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> Paul - If I am reading this correctly, these are two gravity-fed systems.
> One with a higher pressure head than the other.  But in theory the higher
> tank will simply drain until its elevation is equal to the lower tank. Or as
> Charles illustrated, if you have a check valve separating the systems, the
> higher system will be your source until it drains to the point that they are
> at equal pressures. In the end, you will have a higher pressure with lower
> volume; then when the pressures equalize, your volume will increase a little
> but at the lower tank pressure.
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Hydraulic Calculations with two water sources
> 
> We have an existing fire service (from city water main) feeding hydrants and
> sprinkler systems. The hydrant at the end of this fire service (hydrant #1)
> has a static of 50psi, residual of 40psi, and a flow of 750gpm.
> 
> Our client wants to add an additional water source, via a 200,000 gallon
> water storage tank at 610 feet about the POC, hoping that the pressure will
> increase. This storage tank also feeds existing hydrants. The closest
> hydrant from this water source (hydrant #2) is 50 feet higher in elevation
> than hydrant #1. Hydrant #2 has a static of 128psi, residual of 8psi, and a
> flow of 265gpm.  To connect the two water sources we are going to run a new
> fire line 380 lineal feet from hydrant #1 to hydrant #2. We use HydraCalc
> and it does not allow two separate water sources.
> 
> Any suggestions on how to determine how much the pressure will be increased,
> if any?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
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