Got it...Here is some info for Draft Curtains: NFPA 13 Section A.3.3.8 A.3.3.8 Draft Curtain. Additional information about the sizeand installation of draft curtains can be found in NFPA 204. From CBC: *910.3.5.1 Construction. *Draft curtains shall be constructed of sheet metal, lath and plaster, gypsum board or other *approved *materials which provide equivalent performance to resist the passage of smoke. Joints and connections shall be smoke tight. [F]
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 9:56 PM, Travis Mack <[email protected]> wrote: > These are not draft stops. They are draft curtains required by the listing > of the sprinkler. > > The listing only states it has to be constructed of a material that does > not let heat pass over or through. > > Travis Mack, SET > MFP Design, LLC > "Follow" us on Facebook: > https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > Send large files to MFP Design via: > https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Feb 11, 2016, at 10:28 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > Here is some food for though... > > > > Check out NFPA 13 Section 8.14.5.2 (3) > > > > ...The draft stop has to stay in place before and during sprinkler > operation. > > > > This is from the CBC: > > 718.3.1 Draftstopping materials. > > Draftstopping materials shall not be less than 1/2-inch (12.7 mm) gypsum > board, 3/8-inch (9.5 mm) wood structural panel, 3/8-inch (9.5 mm) > particleboard, 1-inch (25-mm) nominal lumber, cement fiberboard, batts or > blankets of mineral wool or glass fiber, or other approved materials > adequately supported. The integrity of draftstops shall be maintained. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Feb 11, 2016, at 7:20 PM, rongreenman . <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Ed has a good point. I was thinking the opposite, is it heavy enough to > not > >> blow around? > >> > >>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 6:45 PM, Travis Mack <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> > >>> Yeah. They just want to staple in place at top. > >>> > >>> Travis Mack, SET > >>> MFP Design, LLC > >>> "Follow" us on Facebook: > >>> https://www.facebook.com/pages/MFP-Design-LLC/92218417692 > >>> Send large files to MFP Design via: > >>> https://www.hightail.com/u/MFPDesign > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>>>> On Feb 11, 2016, at 6:45 PM, rongreenman . <[email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> just let it hang vertically along a long edge? > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 3:49 PM, Travis Mack, SET < > [email protected]> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I have a customer that is asking if batt insulation can be secured to > >>> the > >>>>> roof decking and used as a draft curtain for the Tyco CC > sprinklers. I > >>>>> have never seen an application such as this, but it doesn't seem to > be > >>>>> prohibited in the datasheet. The only requirement is that it must be > >>>>> constructed of a material so that heat can not pass through or over. > >>>>> > >>>>> What do you think? Could insulation secured to the roof/floor deck > >>> serve > >>>>> as a draft curtain for these sprinklers? My gut feeling is that it > >>> would > >>>>> not be suitable, but I can't find something in the data sheet to > support > >>>>> that. 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