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>
> Dear Jr,
>
> Yes, without question you are right in all that you say. And this is what
> scares the beejabers out of me in providing advice to people who might dare
> try stuff without researching the holy mother loving chit out of the subject.
> The "finer" points of this procedure aren't usually followed. It blows me
> away that someone will try something simply because someone told them to. All
> I see are fat fingers with loads of rings.
>
> I wake up in night sweats.
Linda,
I don't have the night sweats anymore, but I'll never escape the burden
of knowing no matter how good my intentions, efforts, or designs, there
will always be something I missed, or didn't carry far enough in my
work, that generates a risk of someone or something being hurt in
something I've been created. JR's advice was about component safety and
your concern here is about his omitting the issue of personal safety. In
the balance, both perspectives can be understood by the readers now
because you both wrote.
As I remember it, Dickens had the Ghost of Christmas Future show us the
children huddled beneath his robes and said, "Beware these children.
This boy is ignorance, the girl is want. But beware you most of all this boy."
One of the functions of this list is dealing with and overcoming
ignorance. Yes, it is about the Starmax as an appliance which is
microscopic in the context of Dickens' warning, but it also allowed you
the ability to remind us all of our personal safety which is a much more
noble use of any forum.
If someone says there are things we shouldn't discuss, because there are
risks involved, I'll have to disagree because ignorance with all its
deadly appendages by definition is neutralized by learning. For me, my
answer has been to explain the risks and offer the protective solutions.
>
> Stop and think. I don't care if a person doesn't know squat about computers
> or electronics ..... if it doesn't make sense, then don't do it!
Some people will, and some will not listen, and there'll always be
someone covered with rings sticking their hands where they shouldn't. We
forget; we don't pay attention. It happens. That's the doofus in our humanity.
> Bless your heart "Mom" for even having the interest with the StarMax computer
> in the first place .... you will find such great rewards in your next life.
I agree, I was thrilled to find the site, it gives me a great
opportunity to learn from the experiences of many people about the
strange hunk of silicon I seem to be loyal to these days. I just don't
agree with the opinions that writing should be controlled and micro
managed. If the audience is alienated they pick up and move--or more
likely don't write which is the death knell of any forum.
> NOTHING is magical about the appliance we use. Apple made this stupid
> computer thinger an appliance. It shouldn't be anything more than that.
Well, for some people it will always be magic, which is a mutated form
of ignorance, and they will always be gullible and, some may argue, need
to be protected from themselves. But, is keeping them ignorant any real answer?
> I can't answer stuff about USB and I can't talk about stuff that pertains to
> OS 8 or later (although I run a computer under OS 9). I know squat about CDRW
> and all the hi-breds because it was never necessary for me to learn these
> things. I do know basic things about OS 1.0 through 7.6 though. I know SCSI
> like the back of my hand. I've learned a great deal about the IDE drives,
> but I've learned that I haven't learned enough about them. I know this
> business about PRAM and how the Mac polls and searches for an OS.... ANY
> operating system ANYWHERE. I also know that what you tell the Mac go look for
> as a start up disk isn't always what it will look for first.
That's a remarkable amount of non-ignorance, which you obviously share
as well as provide the perspective we technocrats sometimes forget about.
> The thing that I've learned that is tried and true from the first issue of
> the MacIntosh line is one must always work the simplest solution first and
> then go on from there.
You're absolutely right, that's why I put it in the piece I just
wrote--out and out theft of good thoughts that were lying around here in
the forum. No shame in that. I'm a little bit brighter in what I said
because of what you said.
> ...You must prove that you've played three times. Three times. Three
> times. Three times. Don't forget that number.
>
> Three rings is still a charm even today. Sure, sure, there are so many of us
> that want to help .... we all really want to help but some of us can't. Lord,
> some of us actually do help but a lot of us try to help and make things even
> worse. It is getting harder and harder to tell who can help and who can't. I
> thought I could help for a time but I see now that my help is so terribly
> limited. I'll never find my third ring. I believe that I am finished in what
> I can do here. I know that the last thing that I can help you all with is to
> remind you of the trinity .... make solid verification three times.
As an old pragmatist, I'm always happy with whatever number works.
> All the same you guys make me nervous.
>
> Linda
Jeez, I didn't show up wanting to make you nervous or to make
ko@megsinet,net mad. This is a place where I can learn and I can make
contributions. I am indeed a prickly pear--in shape and attitude, and
I've got just as much doofus as anyone else--perhaps a bit more as i
should know better.
Don't leave, you're a good writer, and I'm sure ko@megsinet,net is a
good hard-working moderator--I just don't want to be poked at with a
stick if it's not necessary.
I publicly apologize for any ruckus I caused and I'd like the group to
look at the proposal. If it works, it was born of this list and can be
useful to many people. If it doesn't and I'm a fool, so what else is
new? I can survive a little risk taking; and so can everyone else.
Anyway I gotta run too.
Thanks for being patient with me,
Bob Wulkowicz
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