Grzegorz,

I don't agree with non-stable releases and totally disagree with a nonchalant care taken for any release however I suspect Remi's comments might allude to the fact that the release deployment has been streamlined vs. toss the release out there the Microsoft way... .

*Please re-read the initial post on this thread.*
Nested layouts was the main thing IMO that held back the 1.5.4 release.
I reported some issues w/ nested layouts as well as provided Ben with simple reproducible tests.

Ben resolved those issues a month ago and said:
> I have lots of crazy test cases that work great. I just wanted people to drop in a snapshot where they're running 1.5.3 and make sure everything still works.

Others have made aside comments that nested layouts work for them.

If all project test cases have passed, non-working cases have been resolved, and nobody is voicing any issues (on the mailing list OR via JIRA) then my question is then what is the criteria to release 1.5.4 Snapshot?

Again - I disagree with Remi's comments and couldn't agree with you more - however on your "Up" remark...

What is the issue you have with the 1.5.4 release going live?

Cheers,

--Nikolaos




Grzegorz Krug?y wrote:
W dniu 09.11.2010 20:51, VANKEISBELCK Remi pisze:
Let's go. It's been too long already. And if this layout thing actually turns out to be a disaster, well, we'll fix and re-release.

This does sound more like Microsoft relasing Windows (hey, we have autoupdate, we'll fix it later or we'll issue an SP). I believe changes as deep as those with layout engine should be tested and confirmed working if we still want Stripes to be treated seriously.

Having said that, I have been using 1.5.x branch on my e-commerce app where layouts are intensively used for CMS-related stuff and I have noticed no fuckups after Ben's changes. But there have not been too many responses to Ben's call for testing and I'm not sure if releasing without confirming (perhaps some synthetic suite of tests that check edge cases?) it works for everyone is a good idea.


The release process (apart from the whole website/news etc) is really straightforward with maven now, I don't see no showstopper.

If someone is happily using 1.5.3 and replaces it with 1.5.4 (so only minor version increase) and it breaks horribly with strange templating bugs, it IS a showstopper. Breaking things between minor releases is the way PHP works, not serious Java frameworks.

If anyone thinks we should wait, please speak up !

Up! ;-)

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