Samuel,
I think we need to strive for compatibility with a officially released
GA versions of software...
If JBoss 6 is not GA... is it a legitimate reason to hold back 1.5.4?
IMHO... No.
What if we fix Stripes and JBoss 6 is altered before GA... do we again
delay 1.5.4?
In fact, we can have this same conversation about any version of
software that has not gone GA.
I understand your issue and how serious it is to you but we have to draw
a line in the sand somewhere. Again this is IMHO.
Unfortunately, I can't help you with JBoss 6 as I have no experience
with that particular App Server (many others but not that one) but what
would help immensely towards getting issues resolved in a release is
trying to figure out the issues and possibly even developing a patch OR
at least working on the issues sufficiently that the problem is clearly
understood and can be remedied.
I did look at your tickets though and in this "specific" case, it
appears that your JBoss 6 version can not find ActionBeans. Sounds
pretty broken. But also appears weird that it would have anything to do
with Stripes at this point... i.e. I would expect the issue to have
something to do with JBoss more than Stripes as really Stripes has no
dependency on any functionality specific to a particular App Server and
runs fine on anything J2EE... and that tips the scale for me to not wait
for this particular issue... as tempting as it may be... there will
always be something to fix. Again... others can chime in with their
opinion.
As far as time line for 1.5.5 or 1.6 is concerned I can't speak to that
either... but I imagine for every day 1.5.4 is not released that
probably pushes out a potential release of 1.5.5 or 1.6 b/c all we
essentially are doing is sitting on our hands and waiting... for what...
who knows ;-)
My 2 cents... and others may disagree... .
--Nikolaos
Samuel Santos wrote:
Currently Stripes is not working with JBoss 6.
This is a very serious issue to me.
Shouldn't we try to fix it before releasing version 1.5.4?
How much will we have to wait until version 1.5.5 or 1.6? Will they be
out in time for JBoss 6 GA?
We have 3 open issues related to this - STS-773, STS-775 and STS-776.
Cheers,
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On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 12:20 AM, Nikolaos Giannopoulos
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Remi,
Man... why couldn't you have just said: "I agree that 1.5.4
should be released as I have no issues with it" or just "OK". It
would have had the effect of what you and I and a number of other
people are asking for... a timely release of 1.5.4... all things
considered.
While nothing you say is overtly wrong, you need to understand the
tone and candor of your comments are alarming to some who have not
had issues with nested layouts OR have not had time to test BUT
who have come to expect solid releases for Stripes. I know you
didn't intend any mis-direction with your comment but
unfortunately not everyone will read or get every nuance of every
e-mail.
And yes - releases can be re-released - and we have you to thank
for the Maven release piece but honestly lets not go there...
agreed ;-)
Anyone else have any issues with nested layouts in 1.5.4 or 1.5.4
please speak up "now".
Cheers,
--Nikolaos
VANKEISBELCK Remi wrote:
Hi,
The question is about the nested layouts feature that Ben
included weeks ago. Remember ? He even asked for testing at that
time... Not sure I remember you whining people sending anything
concrete, like test cases. At least no such thing got commited in
our webtests... anyway.
I have been talking with Ben about it and he said that according
to him the nested layouts feature is ready unless someone has a
problem with it. Since no one has a problem, and since it was the
feature we waited for in order to release, I suggested to go for
it. We're not gonna spend months with this stuff.
Many people is waiting for 1.5.4 to be officially released. If
you're not, well, just stick to 1.5.3. Also, many people have
tried out the 1.5.4-SNAPSHOT version. So I don't think there's
any reason to panic here...
Now for the "if it has a problem we'll release again" : that's
what every software does, isn't it ? I mean, there are bugs, we
fix them, we release... Moreover, now that releasing into maven
central is a one-command operation or almost, I don't see the
problem. Even a "critical" issue (which doesn't seem to be the
case for now) would not really serious : just rollback and keep
1.5.3 in the meantime we fix the bug.
Don't make me wrong : I don't say it's classy to release with a
blocker. But it ain't classy to wait forever either, and again,
1.5.4 has already been out for a while as a SNAPSHOT so it should
be tested the best we can...
Sometimes, you just need balls :P
Anyway, unless you guys have a problem with the layouts thing, I
don't see why you complain. No layout problem found ? Well, let's
go. That was my point.
Cheers
Remi
2010/11/9 gshegosh <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
W dniu 09.11.2010 22:29, Nikolaos Giannopoulos pisze:
What is the issue you have with the 1.5.4 release going live?
Personally I have no issue with 1.5.4 release going live
since it works splendidly for me on Glassfish 3 even with my
quirky CMS stuff based on layouts.
What I have disagree with is the approach that Remi seems to
be supporting:
"And if this layout thing actually turns out to be a
disaster, well, we'll fix and re-release."
In my opinion, either the feature is working, or it's out of
the release. I'm not current with the state of layout tags
modifications, if they are confirmed to be working, let 1.5.4
be released; I based my previous post on that single sentence
which could suggest they are NOT fully confirmed to be working.
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