On 12-04-02 5:45 AM, Desiree wrote:
I just get a blank page when going to your site both in Fx 10 Enterprise and
SM 2.6.1 on two different computers both running XP Pro. Mozilla in its
"wisdom" saw fit to blacklist my video driver which does HTML5 just fine on
Opera and had passed all Mozilla tests for HTML5 until Mozilla decided to
blacklist it and then, of course, the HTML5 tests no longer worked. I have
zero interest in updating my video driver. I like the version I use and have
specific reasons for why I use this version of nVidia nForce driver. I
would never have blamed Mozilla if my video driver caused Fx or SM to crash
so I don't think Mozilla should arbitrarily placed video drivers older than
the date they chose on a black list as some very old drivers work fine with
HTML5 yet Mozilla put them on the black list. (I didn't blame Mozilla when
Fx4 was crashing constantly a year ago and it turned out to be nVidia's
nView that I love greatly but I had to disable it forever if I wanted to use
Fx4 and above. I lost 50% of the functionality of my video card just to be
able to use Fx4 but I didn't blame Mozilla so I certainly would not have
blamed Mozilla if my video driver had problems with HTML5 on Fx or SM. Thus,
I don't think Mozilla should have placed any video card driver versions on a
black list.
So, I can't use your help site unless I use Opera there which sort of
defeats the purpose. When I get a new computer (waiting for OEMs to get Ivy
Bridge processors) I guess the issue will be moot on the new computer. I
think it is a shame you chose to make video only as I can't learn that way.
I am a reader not a movie watcher. I want a help site to have text and
screenshots. I rarely use Flash Player and don't even have it installed
except on IE for my ISP's speed test but otherwise I don't want FP and HTML5
is probably going to be even worse than FP as far as never ending security
issues go and privacy invasion for the user so I disagree strongly with your
decision to make your help site HTML5 dependent.
Whoa! You're making incorrect assumptions based on incorrect
assumptions. So let's back up a bit, explain what driver blacklisting
is, and figure out the /real/ reason you can't access HTML5 sites.
_What does graphics driver blacklisting do_
SeaMonkey (as well as some plugins) have a feature called hardware
acceleration, in which your graphics processor is used for drawing
operations. There's also a web standard called WebGL, in javascript is
used to render 3d graphics in web browsers. If your graphics driver is
known to cause problems with hardware acceleration or webgl, SeaMonkey
will disable hardware acceleration and webgl on your installation.
Neither of those are part of HTML5.
_What are the affects of using a driver that is on the blacklist_
The drawback to a blocked graphics driver is that webpage performance
will not be as fast. You will still be able to access the same websites.
_Is Flash needed to watch the screencasts_
No. HTML5 video does not require any plugin. HTML5 does not have LSOs
(Flash cookies).
_What reasons could be for a blank page at seamonkey.ilias.ca_
Maybe it's because the search box uses an iframe? If you go to a page
that doesn't have a search box, like
<http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/installing/>, do you still get a blank page?
Whatever reasons you have for not updating your graphics driver, it
something you should do. You can find instuctions at
<http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-do-i-upgrade-my-graphics-drivers>
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Chris Ilias <http://ilias.ca>
Newsgroup moderator
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