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Zenon Panoussis wrote: | | Toad wrote: | |>> The thing is, the lack of search capabilities reduces |>> the useability of freenet | | |> Of course. There are ways to implement search, however. Sooner or later |> somebody will implement a good spider based anonymous search.
Sooner. NIM/FROST allows you to "send" information to someone. So the author of a new freesite uses one of those methods to notify the spider about their new freesite. Then the spider generates index files, and provides three interfaces for searching:
- - Download the index files and a search "client" and run searches locally. With a "fast" freenet and small enough download chunks, this could be very effective -- at least until the index files get too big.
- - Search via a "real" web interface -- a gateway somewhere. This compromises anonymity of the user, but is faster.
- - Search by entering a query in NIM/FROST, and wait a bit for a response. This would require some sort of client software and a "fast" freenet to be sane.
I read somewhere (probably on a freesite) about some sort of IRC which claimed to be completely anonymous. If there truly is something as fast as IRC and as anonymous as Freenet, it'd be very helpful for that third solution.
Unfortunately, I can't work on this at all right now. My freenet node looks fine, only I get a connection close from FProxy the instant I try connecting -- that is, 0 bytes sent/recieved from netcat, "The document contains no data" from Firefox.
| of the user. If a non-anonymous search solves one part without | affecting the other, what's the harm of it?
None, as long as it's _absolutely_clear_ which parts are solved. If you make the publisher anonymous but the readers known, you don't want someone saying "ooh, freenet" and then using it to visit Porn of Love from an office computer. Or worse. Make huge, bold, red warnings.
|> This would |> probably have two components: 1. A spider, which would spider out from |> known freesites, scan NIMs, and Frost traffic, and insert index files. |> 2. A client, probably integrated into fproxy, which would fetch the |> index files that are appropriate to the search given. | | You mean creating index files before a search has been made? | Wouldn't that be highly inaccurate and/or produce massive | volumes of indices?
It's what Google does. The spider, known as Googlebot, attempts to download the entire Internet and index it. When you run a Google search, it searches on that (albeit massive) index file. But the Google indices are probably huge. For a sample, download the DMOZ rdf dump -- http://rdf.dmoz.org/.
[...] | to reach the users of freenet and hushmail; I want it to | reach the huge and clueless masses who watch CNN and use | hotmail. And I also want to protect my anonymity damn well.
What about implementing a freenet client as a Java applet, thus allowing "freenet gateways"? You'd need that (no _percieved_ download/install of software) in order to reach these huge and clueless masses. You could just make a public FProxy, but then governments could ask you to give them the IPs of everyone who viewed a particular Freesite. Not good.
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