Hi Richard -
There is lots of things that pan all around the room but the soundscape is
designed in pre production for this installation and then its just a
multichannel file (or seperate mono ones). Other installations I do are
interactive and so sounds are processed and panned in realtime around the
space depending on the sensors used etc. Certainly the AVB thing might be
good for some less inhospitable environments- I especially like the way
power can be taken to the the speakers via the ethernet cable.....

On 28 June 2017 at 21:16, Richard Foss <r.f...@ru.ac.za> wrote:

> Hi Augustine, this sounds like an interesting application. I was recently
> at the Buddhist rhythm garden in Hong Kong and experienced a multi-speaker
> system within the garden - it was very effective. The UTrack24 looks great,
> and affordable. Do you control the internal DSP mixer to have sounds moving
> across speakers or would this be pre-mixed into the channels you send? I
> have been using mixer matrices within the N-DAC8s and SPK-4Ps to provide
> immersive effects. The nice thing here is that you have a standard protocol
> to enable this. To use the N-DAC8s for your application you would indeed
> need to have 3 x N-DAC8s ($900) and a computer.
>
>
>
> On 2017-06-28 09:11 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard and Guillaume,
>> Interesting stuff. Two things to note - the installation is in a tropical
>> botanic garden so I am using a certain type of speaker that is pretty
>> resilient (used in saunas etc) whci is passive (for obvious reasons) and
>> connected by speaker cable . The AVB amps sound interesting - any links to
>> the highest channel count ones ?  I am not quite sure what advantage 4 *
>> N-DAC8
>> ($1200) + computer ($ ???) would get me over one Utrack 24 or even a Joeco
>> other than the fact its connects via ethernet rather than USB , bearing in
>> mind that the speaker will be connected analogue via a a couple of
>>   multichannel amplifiers.....
>>
>> On 28 June 2017 at 19:55, Richard Foss <r.f...@ru.ac.za> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I agree with Guillaume - AVB is a good option. miniDSP sell an 8
>>> channel box AVB box, the N-DAC8, for $299.
>>>
>>> With three of these you have 24 channels, and they all run off the same
>>> network clock. You would also need a small (4/5 port) switch.
>>>
>>> A more expensive, but also easily configurable option is their SPK-4P
>>> Power over Ethernet option ($395). For 22 channels, you would then have
>>> 22
>>> speakers connected to a 24 port switch. Power, audio, and control then
>>> all
>>> travel over one cable, which makes for easy configuration. Again, all
>>> speakers are synced to the same network master.
>>>
>>> Richard.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2017-06-28 07:39 PM, Guillaume Le Nost wrote:
>>>
>>> Aside from dante, AVB is another option for multichannel audio over
>>>> ethernet.
>>>> It is now available as standard (and for free) in any Mac running a
>>>> recent os, and several options for avb enabled amplifiers are available:
>>>> biamp, crown, l-acoustics to list a few.
>>>> If converters are required, the Motu AVB series can help, and is
>>>> relatively inexpensive.
>>>>
>>>> Guillaume
>>>>
>>>> On 28 Jun 2017, at 18:00, Jörn Nettingsmeier <
>>>>
>>>>> netti...@stackingdwarves.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 06/27/2017 07:52 PM, Augustine Leudar wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> see my post before last for what went wrong. How much are the Joecos ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.thomann.de/gb/joeco_bbr64_dante_blackbox_recorder.htm
>>>>>
>>>>> However, if you go the Dante route, you might as well use an old
>>>>> Minimac
>>>>> with a virtual soundcard (if 32 ch out is enough) and an appropriate
>>>>> Dante
>>>>> converter. Should be cheaper, if you have the Mac lying around, and no
>>>>> less
>>>>> robust if the hardware is otherwise ok.
>>>>>
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