Hello Bernie,
}- Putting me in there? Hmm... at least my mails held (at least
}- IMO) a higher standard then they normally do ;)
Yes, I put you in there...I hope you don't mind... And BTW we
will all be holding you to this higher standard from now on
<grin>.
}- I find this topic very interesting and it gives us more in a
}- debate then just:
}- "Get Linux!"
}- "No! Never, all my programs are for DOS!"
}- "M$ did this and that crap."
}- "This thing isn't working."
}- "I found this thing..."/"I got this thing..."
I quite (and very happily) agree. Simple courtesy and respect
seem much more plentiful here as well, this *always* helps.
}- Even as these topics are interesting (I've read all of the
}- mails that have come). I find something where we have
}- diffrent (but not *that* diffrent) view on something much
}- more appealing since I think we all will learn much more from
}- it.
[snip]
Yes, there is a difference between discussion and proselytizing,
isn't there? <grin>
}- Exactly, nothing is easy when you start to learn it. What can
}- be make it easier is if you've:
}- 1. Ever seen something like it before
}- 2. Aren't afraid of discovering new things
For me, and most of the people I know or have taught it's the
second that has been the most helpful and motivational. I had
never seen anything like a computer before, unless you count an
old-fashioned non-computerized cash register. But I have never
been afraid of discovering new things. Ironically enough, my
laziness was also a major motivating factor. I wanted to do
astrology charts. I could do them "by hand" doing all the math
calculations with paper and pencil, but it was a long,
painstaking process and one little mistake would throw the
entire thing off and you had to start from the beginning. As you
know one of the things computers have always been good at is
counting and keeping track of movement (the planets), so the
computer was a natural for this. Little did I know that it
would lead to all my computer knowledge and experience...
Eventually I found computers themselves to be much more
interesting than astrology.
}- M$ prompted as such an the media loved it since they where
}- used to such an approach after using Mac for all those years
}- before. (Mac is almost only used by doctors and journalists
}- AFAIK).
That explains it then, I've never known any journalists or
doctors, so that's why I never knew anyone who used an Apple/Mac.
}- It's more abstract. A paper everyone (hopefully) can
}- understand and understand how to put it in a cabinet so it
}- isn't lost. A computer file is diffrent since the user can't
}- touch it and I think that is the biggest difficulty of
}- learning for the average user. Instead of learning this users
}- finds it more easy to understand if someone tells him how it
}- is and M$ has done just that.
Yes, I remember when I was learning I had this problem. The way
my teacher (who also happened to be my son) helped me to
understand it was to compare the file on the hard drive to a
record (the kind you play on a stereo). The music seems
non-existent when you aren't playing the record, but you know
the information that is the music is recorded in the grooves
of the record, you know it's always there and available, even
when you aren't actually playing it. I was able to understand
this and it helped me immensely.
}- Yes, but also finding the way to make unknown things known
}- to you.
I think a good teacher is absolutely essential to this part of
the problem.
}- Noone is an expert at Win9x since every task can be made in
}- so many ways
[snip]
And agreed!
}- I never heard of any other OS until 89-90 [snip]
Then my experience isn't unusual. See, I'm not as weird as you
thought I was <grin>.
}- I have a sneaking suspicion that Apple is somehow responsible
}- for all this - it couldn't be IBM after all! <grin>
}- I blaim almost everything on a few sources, M$ and Apple
}- beeing two of them (I'll not name the entire list here since
}- I'll probably get flamed then) ;) Ok, one of them is IBM (but
}- I've already mentioned that earlier so I think I'm safe).
I just meant that it never seemed to me that IBM was interested
in making anything easy to use...and they haven't exactly ever
been known for being very creative. All those gray suits you
know...<grin>.
}- }- *Get a Pentium III - you can reboot faster!
}- I doub't that since it's slower on 16 bit operations (but
}- 450MHz might compensate for that<g>).
I thought you might get a kick out of that.... :-)
Boanne
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