Ayn Rand was mistress to one of the Rothschilds. I suppose you could consider her an insider.
Kirk -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2002 12:41 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Huge seabed methane find off Canada's west coast >Freedom of whom? I think you might find that people arguing for >freedom vs environmental responsibility are in fact arguing for >*corporate* freedom, not individual freedom, though they might think >that's what they're arguing for. Amen. Big time. My point exactly. A lot of them *equate* the two. The damage done by folks running amuck with *equating* Big Business with Property rights is extensive. Ayn Rand is often I think at the base of their thinking, but although she championed Big Business as a persecuted Minority, she, herself, was *quite* clear (at least in my opinion) that at base she was a proponent of man's rights being defined, politically, as property rights, whether for individuals or incorporated bodies of individuals. She did not, to my knowledge, favor this "equivalency" of Big Business with Property Rights and screw-the-little-guy's-rights, although I'm sure others might argue with my interpretation of her work. > >As for national hegemony, it's the poorest countries with the lowest >per capita energy consumption, only fractions of a percent of those >in the US, that will pay the most heavily for the disproportionate US >share in causing global warming. Would you call that freedom? If the >opposite were true and they were dumping on you like you're dumping >on them, would you call it freedom? I think, hopefully, this argument can be brought to bear against the bean-counters in the US, in some way. I've been hoping to hear a sort of "Ok, US, if you don't want to be part of Kyoto, fine, but then if Global Warming does turn out to have a lot of merit, and if massive damage is done, then please be advised that we will be expecting Trillion-Dollar-Level Insurance compensation, not necessarily from those initially responsible, but particularly from those who refused corrective action once the problem became more apparent." Not that I'd look forward to seeing my country felled by this, and hopefully we can avoid it, but if the pocketbooks of those involved can be brought into the picture, they might see Global Warming Preventative ACtion a bit differently. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/