Hi, Unlimited energy leads to all other needs. The most essential raw product is energy. Once one has energy they can recycle water, make water, grow food in all sorts of ways, etc. I've lived in the desert for ten years. It was an eye opener to realize how dependent life in the desert is on energy, and how everything else pales. I live in Saudi...number one in the world at making potable water from the sea. They grow enough wheat to meet their own needs, and export the excess. Life is dependent on energy like nowhere else.
Please don't misunderstand me. I am not advocating this. I don't consider much this to be sustainable. But, I don't think it is wise to minimize the importance of energy as the fundamental building block under everything else. In the desert, it would be easily possible to harvest 50% of the incident light for electricity production and to farm with the remaining light. Brian is right on. The future energy production for the world could well come from worthless deserts, with a top layer of Photovoltaics and vast farms under the light collectors. The energy could possibly be exported by either microwaves or hydrogen pipelines. Regards, Derek > Brian, > > Before you invest in "worthless" desert islands, you better make sure you can > raise food on that island. Energy alone, whether hydrogen or electricity, > makes > a poor meal even for an energy guru. > > Art Krenzel, P.E. > PHOENIX TECHNOLOGIES > 10505 NE 285TH Street > Battle Ground, WA 98604 > 360-666-1883 voice > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Brian > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 7:01 PM > Subject: [biofuel] Re: OT: Worldwide Publicly Traded Sustainable Technology > or > Conservation Investments > > > If I had real money to invest, I'd be buying up "worthless" desert > land. Between solar and wind technology, there is enough energy > being wasted in the desert to do quite a bit of hydrogen conversion > for fuel cell cars, if this technology ever goes anywhere. At least > that's my bright idea of the past year or so. > > Brian > > --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, murdoch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Does anyone here have any ideas for investments in stocks > (anywhere in > > the world... does *not* have to be North America) that have a good > > sustainable technology or energy technology or conservation > angle? > > > > I am working on a project to collect and refine some ideas in this > > area, and there are a couple of roadblocks I've run into. > > > > For example, I was trying to think of a way, any way at all, to > invest > > in the idea of energy conservation in the general realm of > > locally-grown locally-consumed low-input high-output foods. But > how > > to do this? > > > > I started tossing around the idea of Whole Foods (WFMI on yahoo > U.S. > > stock boards) just because on balance one might end up shopping > there > > for foods that have been grown according to 'some' conservationist > > principles, lower Petroleum input, etc. If one buys eggs produced > > from range fed chickens, at least that's something. > > > > But putting aside that dissatisfying compromise, if anyone has any > > ideas, .... including 'outside the box' ideas of companies you've > seen > > practicing or selling some offbeat sustainable idea or product, .. > I'd > > be curious to hear it. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
