I, on the other hand, am purposefully ignoring both Keith and Hakan and am kind of hurt that neither one has even noticed. Hakan and Keith, please ignore this post.
Garth & Kim Travis wrote: >Greetings Keith and Hakan, >I am not ignoring you or refusing to answer. My AC went down and my >computer does not like to work in 90F+. I have to use the cool of the day >to get the farm chores done. I will be back. >Bright Blessings, >Kim > >At 07:15 PM 9/2/2005, you wrote: > > > >>Kim, >> >>During the years between the first and the second Gulf war, a very >>large number of children died each year, something that Galloway >>picked up in his part of the US "oil for food" hearings. "..- who died >>only because the fact that they were born in Iraq at the wrong time". >>Many 1,000's more than anything from the hurricane. I still have the >>Galloway speech at, >> >>http://hakanfalk.com/msnbc_uk_galloway_blisters_us_on_iraq_050517-01b.wmv >> >>This was a direct consequence of the US led blockade. In this case >>it was not the parents, it was the "Americans". I did not see many >>Americans being upset about that. >> >>Hakan >> >>At 14:35 02/09/2005, you wrote: >> >> >>>Greetings, >>>No one but you has brought up any stereo types. If you honestly believe >>>that everyone who has been injured by this storm is an innocent bystander, >>>then enjoy your rose colored glasses. Most of us feel anger that children >>>died because their parents would not heed warnings. We never said that >>>every child's death was it's parents fault, or anything like >>>that. However, in the world I live in, there are people who expect others >>>to do for them, what they should be doing for themselves. It is sad that >>>their children have paid an ultimate price for their behavior. >>>Bright Blessings, >>>Kim >>> >>>At 09:32 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote: >>> >>> >>>>>Greg has not condemned anyone who tried to >>>>>help themselves, just those who don't. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>And precisely who's position is it to condemn anyone? And what right is >>>>it of their's to say that those whom they condemn or denigrate didn't do >>>>all they could within their means? >>>> >>>>An estimated 112,000 homes that lack transportation in the New Orleans >>>>area, with the government agencies fully expecting that 20% of the >>>>population would not be evacuated under circumstances similar to or less >>>>than Katrina. See "Hurricane Pam Exercise," >>>>http://www.ohsep.louisiana.gov/newsrelated/hurripamends.htm >>>> >>>>I wonder what it is that these agencies know that Greg and yourself don't? >>>> >>>>As for rants that you perceive to be acceptable? Well, it is quite out >>>>of line to rant when not holding all the facts. Even worse to rant and >>>>stereotype all who are enduring the same consequence when not all made >>>>decisions on the same basis. >>>> >>>>A bit like saying all Canadians who choose to live in Texas are as dumb >>>>as bricks. Or that all black single moms are sucking on the government >>>>welfare teat. Maybe there are extinuating circumstances that rip such >>>>rants to shreds under even the most simplified examination. >>>> >>>>Todd Swearingen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Garth & Kim Travis wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Greetings, >>>>> >>>>>I am wondering, are Greg and I the only ones that feel frustration with >>>>>people who don't care about their lives, then expect someone else to >>>>> >>>>> >>pick >> >> >>>>>up the pieces? >>>>> >>>>>Greg has not condemned anyone who tried to help themselves, just >>>>> >>>>> >>those who >> >> >>>>>don't. I can remember my parents being irate with a neighbor when >>>>> >>>>> >>we were >> >> >>>>>growing up for the same kind of behavior. There was a broken water main >>>>>and it flooded the basements of the houses. The one guy on the >>>>> >>>>> >>>street that >>> >>> >>>>>was always bragging about his new toys, was the one that didn't have the >>>>>money to fix his house, because he didn't pay his insurance premiums. I >>>>>mean, who expects a flood in Calgary, Alberta, Canada? I am afraid they >>>>>were not very polite when someone came canvassing for money to >>>>> >>>>> >>>help the guy. >>> >>> >>>>>How about: God helps those who help themselves? >>>>> >>>>>I don't see that a rant against people who have endangered >>>>> >>>>> >>themselves and >> >> >>>>>others is out of line. >>>>> >>>>>And yes, I have already donated help and I am working on more for the >>>>>people of Louisianna. >>>>> >>>>>Bright Blessings, >>>>>Kim >>>>>At 03:54 PM 9/1/2005, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I'm sure that there is a percentage of people who have exercised poor >>>>>>judgment. Who hasn't exercised poor judgment? The irony here is how you >>>>>>express less sympathy as the suffering from those mistakes gets worse. >>>>>> >>>>>>Mike >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Biofuel mailing list >>>>>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists >>>>> >>>>> >>.org >> >> >>>>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>>> >>>>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>messages): >>>> >>>> >>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Biofuel mailing list >>>>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>>> >>>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>> >>>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>>> >>>> >>>messages): >>> >>> >>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>>> >>>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Biofuel mailing list >>>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>> >>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>> >>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>> >>> >>messages): >> >> >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>> >>> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Biofuel mailing list >>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> > > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/