Jim Leonard wrote:
>Pedro Quaresma wrote:
>
> Jim Leonard wrote:
> >Pedro Quaresma wrote:
> >
> > I thought of "habyt", "hobit", but ended up with "hobbyt", how does it
> > sound?
>
> >Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder seems to fit the bill more.
>
> You have just stated that about 50% of game collectors in the world, and
> including reknown ones like Jason P. Cobb suffer from a mental disorder.
> Bravo! You have superseeded yourself.

>I myself am slightly that, as I am slightly ADD (attention deficit
>disorder).  So is my wife, and we bore two children: one is autistic,
>and the other has apraxia (speech delay, but thankfully nothing else).
>My father is one of the world's most renouned Numismatists (coin
>collector).

He is? What's his name, if I may ask? I'm a numismatic myself, but a small
one at that.

(I wish I had as many Ultimas as coins! ;))

>So I'm actually not surprised that anyone who "collects"
>anything has a slight bit of a neurological disorder.

Sorry, I cannot agree, once again. If you say that everyone in the world
suffers, to a different extent, a slight bit of any neurological disorder
(there's a Portuguese saying that goes: "We all have a bit of a doctor,
poet and madman"... hey, it sounds great in Portuguese. Really 0:)), I may
agree. But saying that we have a disorder therefore we collect, or
vice-versa, no.

>At least, that's the excuse I give my wife when I bid on a Cyborg for
>$250 ;-)

The same you talk about below? How much did that end at?

> >Unless you're
> >grabbing them to resell or trade, or for parts, why would you want more
> >than 2 (1 to appreciate, the other as a backup) of the same product?
>
> If you ask questions like the one above, it makes me wonder, do you
> _really_ collect games?

>Of course!  I own over 600.

I think I don't even have 100 now... :|

>But my motiviations are different than
>yours (and most collectors).  I'll explain my motivations later in this
>email.

After reading the text below, I wouldn't say "most".

> OK, here's the short answer:
>
> a) When they're different versions b) when they are sold in a bundle in
> which I wanted some other thing from it c) When it's sold really really
> really cheap.

>All valid reasons.  But when you wrote 4th or 5th, you were implying
>that you were grabbing 4 or 5 of the same thing, hence my question.

I didn't grab them all at the same time, of course. I got the first one for
obvious reasons. The second because the first was incomplete, the third
because it came on a bundle (incomplete again), the 4th sold cheaply by
another collector who won an auction and he didn't want it, and the 5th
because it was amazingly cheap.

As I said, I'd have gotten rid of some/many if I ever found anybody
interested in them.

>I purchase 2 of everything:  1 to appreciate, and the other to crack the
>shrinkwrap on.  (!!!)

If I had the $ I'd probably do the same :(

>Yes, I break original shrinkwrap so that I can
>release the game to the public domain if nobody else has.  Why do you
>think the hardcore oldwarez community is so eager to get their hands on
>Chris' copy of Cyborg?  Because it may very well be the last copy that
>exists, and we want to copy the disk before it goes bad and fades away.
>Even Michael Berlyn doesn't have a copy of his own code any more.

I didn't know that. The last one?

(Hey Chris, I have another two pink freesb... errr.. Starcross saucers for
you right here!)

>Sadly for us -- and detailed in an old conversation that you can look at
>in the archives -- Chris and many other collectors place much less value
>on the diskette than the entire package.

I'm like Chris, then. I'd rather have box and manual and no floppies, than
working floppies and nothing else.

>Me personally, if I crack open
>a rare game only to find that the disk is bad, the entire thing is
>nearly worthless for me.  What good is a game that you CAN'T PLAY?  :-)

You can look at it. And regarding that, a manual and a box are more
interesting to look at than some floppies!

Do you think the guy that gave Jason Cobb a 5-digit-value for his Akalabeth
actually cared if the floppy worked or not?

Also, none of my Ultima 4's is the IBM version! what about that? :)

>Along similar lines, I like to perform "restoration" on old games:  If
>the original disk is bad, I can replace it exactly with a (protected)
>copy of itself from my archives, a bit-for-bit exact copy with even the
>protection intact.  I also throw in a 5.25" and 3.5" disk of an
>unprotected copy into the package "just in case".

I only have PCs (and now one Amiga), so I have no idea if 75% of my games
work (which reminds me of a topic I'll bring up here eventually)

Pedro R. Quaresma
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"All your base are belong to us"




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