From: "Don - htmlfixit.com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > What if we approach this a different way? Lets forget wordpress per > say, because as you indicated, that isn't the real issue.
Yes, that's entirely correct, it's never about focusing on a tool for any reason other than it's failure to effectively produce useful content. It's wordpress this week, or blogger last year, radio the year before or whatever tool comes next. We've used the 'big stick' approach in other situations, while at the same time helping them come to grips with the technical nuances involved. As our help aided them in grasping the issues their fixes improved the quality of feeds. That we suggested to them we'd be left with no choice than to start marking entire groups of feeds produced by their tools was just that, a suggestion. Not a threat, per se, as we were also helping them learn whatever was necessary to actually fix it. We actually 'put up with' blogger's bad date handling for quite a while, but nagged the heck out of the developer until he finally got the code changes pushed through to the process on their end. This was also when we pushed for feeds to contain creation tool identifiers. Better to see a problem developing and reach out to the tool developer FIRST instead of just whacking the feeds. Especially when we know the content producers would be powerless to fix it themselves. > The only > reason it is mentioned is because it is popular and has a bug from our > way of thinking. What if every feed was during polling checked for > language and compared to it's tag? You could automatically mark them > for repair. I suspect (though I am no language expert) that a quick > scan for things like the/le/sí could quickly give you an educated guess > of english/french/spanish. There are probably 8-10 most common languages. We've been really avoiding letting the poller do anything to a feed. If the code runs rampant (as it's been known to do now and then) and whacks a bunch of feeds it really causes trouble. This is also why I've pressed Jeff over the years for the better searching and sorting options the list view provides. > Now if we have english and either no or english tag, we put it in the > review que. > If we have some other language and no language tag, we mark it for repair. > If we have some other language and an apparent matching tag we also go > to review que. I think there are some ways to check for it like looking for non-ascii character values in a title. That'd be a pretty quick indicator a feed's not english. But it breaks down pretty rapidly beyond that. > It might improve the quality of those needing review vs those already > needing repair. It seems we need some sort of additional state for "the poller thinks it's broken". This as a way for folks to either focus on this or avoid it being something the casual user is burdened with seeing. > I agree that this has nothing to do with content contrary to some > negative comments received. I also understood from the start that your > comments on removing everything from that tool weren't entirely serious > at this point -- and I think that slipped by a few :-) Thanks. I've stressed time and time again this is not about being judgemental on anything other than technical issues. It's complex enough dealing with simple technical issues without sliding down in the quagmire of judging content "value". That and the text medium doesn't always lend itself to conveying effective 'tone' for messages. -Bill Kearney ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $4.98 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Q7_YsB/neXJAA/yQLSAA/IRislB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> If you're getting "too much mail" then send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (this will tell it to stop sending you mail) To change your membership use THIS WEB PAGE: http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/syndic8/join (here you can set your mail to digest, no mail or LEAVE the list) To find more info about Syndicated XML newsfeeds visit http://www.syndic8.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/syndic8/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
