> In the US, most of *these* sort of things are markers where people died > in accidents. Wikipedia calls them "roadside memorials" ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadside_memorial), and I guess that might > be the most common term in the US.
To clarify, by "these", you mean historic=wayside_cross, correct? Or does historic=tree_shrine has the same meaning? 2014-07-09 15:15 GMT-03:00 Brad Neuhauser <brad.neuhau...@gmail.com>: > In the US, most of these sort of things are markers where people died in > accidents. Wikipedia calls them "roadside memorials" ( > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadside_memorial), and I guess that might > be the most common term in the US. > > "Shrine", to my ears, has a different, more specifically religious > connotation than these memorials--see the examples at > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrine I wouldn't use shrine to describe a > marker where someone died unless it was a saint, or it was for people who > literally worshiped ancestors. > > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:02 AM, Friedrich Volkmann <b...@volki.at> wrote: > >> Wayside shrines and crosses are quite common here in Austria, and probably >> in other parts of Europe too. They are mounted on posts (or pillars, >> walls...) made of various materials (wood, stone...), or on trees. When >> mounted on trees, I use a tag combination of historic=wayside_cross (or >> _shrine) with natural=tree + species=* etc. and (if applicable) name=*. I >> mapped a lot of these that way. >> >> Therefore I felt kind of annoyed when someone created a wiki page for the >> new and apparently synonymous tag historic=tree_shrine and immediately >> added >> it to the map features without any preceeding usage or discussion. I >> contacted him, but we didn't achieve a consensus. >> >> In order to untangle that tagging issue, I would like to ask native >> English >> speakers for their understanding of terms: >> >> - How do you call a cross at a tree? >> - How do you call a picture of a saint, or other shrine-like object, at a >> tree? >> - Is the term "tree shrine" common? >> - Is it considered a subset of the term "wayside shrine", i.e. can you >> refer >> to a tree shrine as a wayside shrine? >> >> If we come to the conclusion that "tree shrine" is the correct term and >> that >> we therefore ought to tag them as historic=tree_shrine, some further >> questions arise: >> >> - Does it apply to crosses as well, or only to pictures and alike? >> - Does historic=tree_shrine imply natural=tree? >> - Is name=* the name of the tree or the name of the shrine/picture/cross? >> What if they differ? >> - Is start_date the birthdate of the tree or the date the shrine was made? >> >> -- >> Friedrich K. Volkmann http://www.volki.at/ >> Adr.: Davidgasse 76-80/14/10, 1100 Wien, Austria >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> Tagging@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >
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