On Thu, 14 Feb 2019 at 13:51, Tobias Zwick <o...@westnordost.de> wrote: > I doubt access restrictions are used that way in reality. > The absence of keys like the mentioned key walkable(, cycleable, > motorcarable, hgvable etc.) is a clear sign for that, because there are > enough situations where the situation on the ground is clear for a > surveyor but there is no official sign.
Personally, I have used foot=no to tag ways that are clearly not walkable without confirming the exact legal position, and don't really have a problem with that. But that feels different from tagging foot=yes. Access tags are always a general rule - for example a privileged vehicle would be able to enter a highway with access=no, and workers on foot might be able to work on a motorway or within an intersection. foot=yes to me means that I expect to be able to pass on foot, unless the path is closed for repairs or blocked off by police or whatever - but I have that expectation anyway on any highway=residential that is not tagged with foot=no. > I am sure the police would find something > else to charge you with when you take a walk on for example this busy > intersection https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/188015324 , like, > hindrance of traffic. Note that the road authority also did not bother > to put any signs there [*] > ... > Let's be pragmatic: We don't tag things just because and also do not > live in clouds. So, why do we tag access restrictions at all? - > To be of use for routing and other use cases where it is relevant > whether something is accessible or not, simple as that. The example that started off the thread is highway=residential. The Deichtorplatz example you gave is highway=secondary, and the bits of highway=residential in the junction would not affect pedestrian routing on their own because they only connect to highway=secondary. I would expect majority of bridges, underpasses, intersections, and other such foot=no highways to be higher-class than residential. Which highway classes does the StreetComplete query ask about? And does it make sense to ask about highway=residential -- and I mean highway=residential as it is tagged, not as it is defined by laws or lack thereof? Second. To me, the question is not whether there exists a highway=residential + sidewalk=no with foot=no, but rather do enough of them exist to warrant asking this about every one of them, and tagging foot=yes on every other one? Especially considering that foot=yes is taken to be the default anyway. --Jarek _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging