On Sat, 11 May 2019 at 00:44, Nick Bolten <nbol...@gmail.com> wrote: > Having trouble finding a good picture (I'll keep looking), but there are > mid-block crossings where pedestrians can press an APS to turn on traffic > warning lights - usually yellow in the US. Some of these crossings do not > immediately give you those traffic warnings lights, but instead are tied to > nearby traffic and turn on after a delay. When the lights turn on, there is > some form of a pedestrian signal: sometimes the APS talks to you, sometimes > there's a visual cue: lights turn on or a "walk" sign enables. >
Ugh! I'd still classify that as crossing=traffic_signals. Because as well as controlling pedestrians it does signal to traffic. An advisory signal rather than a controlling signal, but still a signal. That's not like the Belisha Beacon on a Zebra that flashes whether or not there are any pedestrians there. That's not quite like the flashing amber signal near school crossings which are supervised by a crossing guard: the guard turns them on at the start of the shift and turns them off at the end of the shift, there may be nobody crossing from the time the driver sees them to the time the driver has cleared the crossing. I can see an argument for including those if we include yours, but I doubt many people in the UK think of them as traffic lights. The real world is too messy. Can we map a fictional world instead? -- Paul
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