Paul DuBois wrote: > Why make that assumption? One of JSTL's strongest points (my opinion) is > that it makes it easy to start writing JSP applications *without* having > to know any Java. At the very least, JSTL certainly minimizes the amount > of Java you have to know.
The assumption would be if you were giving direction to a new developer who wanted to build potentially complex web applications. The JSTL works, but does it hurt to explain using the JSTL tags before introducing MVC concepts? > If JSP helps you get Java out of your pages so you can write web scripts > with less Java knowledge, JSTL takes that process even further -- > especially in > the arena of database access, using the SQL tags. At the risk of making > you groan, I'd put it like this: JSTL makes it PHP-dead-easy to write web > scripts. Sure, if you're going to write complext apps, you'll probably > want > to go the MVC route. If you're not, MVC is a lot of messing around just > to achieve ethical purity. Right, this is almost exactly as I would describe the JSTL tags in question. Would you agree it is best to push MVC concepts on to a new user who desires to be able to write complex web apps and discourage use of custom tags that conflict, like the JSTL XML and SQL tags? > I suppose one might say that with Java you can do anything. But one of > Java's problems is that you have to know a lot before you can do even a > little. JSTL makes it possible to do quite a bit, even if you know only > a little. That is a good way to put it. Jayson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>