Sign F9 = autoweg = trunk http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verkeersborden_in_Belgi%C3%AB_-_Serie_F:_Aanwijzingsborden
Nice to read on this topic (sorry, it's in |Dutch): http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=16232 http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=16231 Cheers, Johan 2012/12/27 Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> > Now that we're on the subject of road classification, The northern part of > the ring of Leuven has separate lanes for both directions, no traffic > lights, on and off ramps like a motorway and the maximum speed is 90 km/h > (a rare occurence these days in Flanders). > The southern part has crossings with traffic lights and a speed limit of > 50 km/h, complete with a truckload of traffic cams to enforce it. > > At some point I had tagged the northern part as trunk, since it's far > more interesting to go that way from east to west or west to east, so why > wouldn't we visualise that on a rendered map? Somebody retagged the whole > ring road as primary afterwards and I left it as such, since I didn't feel > like starting an edit war. It still feels like a missed chance to be the > better map though. > > Jo > > 2012/12/27 Kevin Grossard <grossard_ke...@hotmail.com> > >> > On Thursday 27 December 2012 09:51:36 Kevin Grossard wrote: >> > > The wiki about the highway conventions distinguishes primairy, >> secondary >> > > and tertiairy roads using the N-numbers (although there are some >> question >> > > marks). Using the current conventions means using the old >> classification >> > > when the N-numbers were given. Various N-ways got reconstructed, the >> > > traffic got redirected by other roads, some roads aren't suitable >> anymore >> > > for the current traffic. >> > > >> > > The spatial structure plan for Flanders (ruimtelijk structuurplan >> > > Vlaanderen) has a list with the primairy roads [pages 368-377 >> > > http://www2.vlaanderen.be/ruimtelijk/docs/rsv2011/RSV2011.pdf]. I >> suggest >> > > to adjust the wiki so there will be an uniform highway classification >> > > where primairy roads are the roads selected in the structure plan. The >> > > other N-roads can be describes as secondary roads. Tertiary roads can >> be >> > > described as other important local roads (nl: steenwegen die geen >> > > secundaire weg zijn). Minor or residential roads can be understand as >> > > local roads (nl: lokale wegen). What do you think? >> > >> > I don't really think we can just take that classification and apply it >> to OSM. >> > It may not look like it from the map in that file, but it would make >> Flanders >> > almost void of primary roads. Our government isn't very keen to give >> lots of >> > roads a primary status. And all the dead-end primary roads won't give a >> nice >> > map either (ringway of Lier without any primary road connecting to it, >> things >> > like that). >> > >> > I've been aware about the official classification (read some previous >> > discussions in the mailing list archive), but I think we at least need >> to >> > include some secundary classified roads tagged as primary in OSM to >> make a >> > useful map. So far, we don't have a list of those. In the UK, the >> category of >> > official primary roads would be tagged as trunk in OSM. >> > >> > That said, using road numbers to determine OSM classification is >> actually how >> > it's done in most countries. It's not perfect by far but we've always >> allowed >> > some deviations from the rule where it makes sense. >> > >> > Ben >> >> Okay, there aren't a lot of primary roads in Belgium but that's the >> result of the historical urban planning and short term vision. >> Fact is that primary roads also differ in reality from the secondary >> roads. For example like the surface, the lack of houses, shops and >> schools (lineair settlement and crossings through villages), the lack of >> cycle tracks, ... >> >> Using the road numbers is a lot easier and that's a good argument but the >> goal of OSM isn't making the Belgium roads more attractive, i suppose? I >> don't get why a dead end primary road connected to a secondary road can't >> be useful. They will look stupid but that's reality and where >> urban planning in Belgium is all about. >> >> But like you said, it would be useful to make a list with exceptions to >> make and keep it simple if that's the way you want to keep it. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-be mailing list >> Talk-be@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-be mailing list > Talk-be@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be > >
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