Jonathan,
Please do raise the licensing issue.... it is a major blocking point
to have imports proceed. We cannot have a variant of the same license
for each city, just changing the city name because the OSM license
working group thinks these are thus all different and then needing
another round of review. We need one (or very small number of)
licenses every municipality/region/province can use.
One way to solve this is to have everymunicipality/region/province
contribute to one master data set and then make that dataset available
to OSM. Eg add all the buildings into CanVec. CanVec is already
approved. :-)
Matthew Darwin
matt...@mdarwin.ca
http://www.mdarwin.ca
On 2018-01-28 02:42 PM, Jonathan Brown wrote:
Okay, I know the Open Data folks and Open Government folks in
Ontario. It’s their job to connect to and support the data stewards
within government who are releasing data through the Open Data
Portal. The federal open government folks are holding a meeting in
Toronto this Monday where the provincial and city folks are likely
to be in attendance. I can raise this licensing issue and how this
is a barrier to crowdsourcing and citizen science, something that
they are keen on embracing. It would be good to show them a working
example. Has the BC2020i OSM data been integrated into the Ottawa
Open Data Portal?
Jonathan
*From: *john whelan <mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, January 28, 2018 2:29 PM
*To: *Jonathan Brown <mailto:jonab...@gmail.com>
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*Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] BC2020 OD_tables wiki and project status
If you map from Bing imagery there is no issue. If you do map from
Bing please use the building_tool plugin in JOSM. We tend to find
new mappers using iD are not very accurate.
If the city has an Open Data file of the building outlines then it
must be available under a licence that OpenStreetMap can accept.
Part of the problem is you can use OpenStreetMap for anything.
The Canadian Federal Government noticed there were problems with
their Open Data licence for OpenStreetMap amongst others they came
up with version 2.0. Ottawa was the first municipality to adopt the
new license and it took about five years to get it sorted out from
start to finish.
I was involved in the original import and was under the impression
that since we were importing CANVEC data and that was available
under the 2.0 license that the municipal equivalent license was
acceptable. Some Stats Canada addresses had been imported from the
TB open data portal in Toronto and they were under the same impression.
It became apparent that the CANVEC imports were not done under the
2.0 license in OSM's eyes.
The TB 2.0 and the Ottawa Open Data license was referred to the LWG
for their opinion. Their opinion was they were acceptable. However
they wished to view any other Open Data licenses in Canada before
giving their benediction.
Some Open Data licenses say and if we don't like what you are doing
you must remove our data. This is an example on something that OSM
would find unacceptable.
Once the outlines are in place then other tags can be added.
Cheerio John
On 28 January 2018 at 13:50, Jonathan Brown <jonab...@gmail.com
<mailto:jonab...@gmail.com>> wrote:
If we have a description of the scope of the work involved in
updating the BC2020 OD tables, I don’t mind trying to find some
senior students who could be trained to take on this task for
locations in Ontario. It would be a very small start, of course.
Also, can someone explain to me the licensing issue? How do
datasets released under the open government license not meet the
legal requirements of the OSM license?
Jonathan
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