On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Nick Barnes<n...@thebarnesfamily.eu> wrote:

> To my mind, nobody ought to be able to edit live map data unless:

No, no, no - completely wrong approach. Think using Dettol
continuously to keep your house clean - most people now realise that
healthy immune systems come from exposure to tolerable infections etc.

So where we are at is that we've got a body (OSM db) and not much
immune system (powers to deal with mistakes, vandalism etc). You're
suggesting we use dettol and I think we should take a more laid back
approach and work improving our capacity to deal with the problems.
Our policies are improving. Our tools are improving. Things are
getting better.

As to your point about trusting OSM - global consistency is a mirage.
The only way we'd get that is emptying the DB and letting nobody edit.
But if we start with the assumption that there is *always* something
wrong in OSM and that there always will be, we can come up with ways
of dealing with it. For example, you could take the planet file, wait
for a fortnight, and apply any anti-vandalism fixes that have occurred
since. Or there's other ways of doing things along those lines. We'll
never make every single edit perfect so we shouldn't aim on relying on
such.

Finally, yes, I think from his actions there's a strong possibility
Liam123 is poking the ants' nest. However, he'll get bored and move on
eventually. Let's work on making life easier for us than for him, and
keep assuming that 99.995% of people's first, second, third and all
subsequent edits are positive - and keep the baby in the bathtub.
Cheers,
Andy

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