Hi, Kevin Peat wrote: > This whole wikipedia comparison seems bogus to me. Kids use wikipedia to do > their homework, people don't trust their lives to it like they do with maps > every day of the week. I've used an OS map many times to navigate > across Dartmoor in bad weather. I would like to do the same with an OSM map > but I don't want to end up falling into a quarry because of some idiot's > vandalism.
Then don't use OSM. Seriously. If you want something with all the checks in place to blindly trust it with your life (and, I guess, want someone you can sue if you fall into a quarry and live to tell the story), then don't use OSM. But don't ruin our project by demanding that we aim to fill this role. Before long you'll say that "if OSM wants to be taken seriously they must implement ISO 9001". > I don't think that putting some basic restrictions on newbies for a few > weeks (maybe just being able to add POI's or raise bugs on existing work) > would discourage people who really want to get involved Those who "really want to get involved" are already involved, at least in most of Europe. We're extending our reach towards those whose involvement can perhaps be described as casual. The time of people who singlehandedly map their town is mostly over. We have to lower the barrier of entry, not build additional obstacles. > but it would stop > random kids from signing up and immediately screwing up months of other > people's efforts. Oh yeah, and let's also get their addresses and hang them! I am amazed at how much hostility this Liam123 is able to provoke. We must improve our means to detect and deal with vandalism, not circle the wagons and make participation more difficult for the > 99% of well-meaning users just because there's < 1% of killjoys. That would be the worst thing we could do. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" _______________________________________________ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb