On 08/08/2018 14:02, Lester Caine wrote:
On 08/08/18 12:59, Dave F wrote:
How often do you believe people will actually want historic data?
Organizations archive for a reason. Consider your house, how things
you don't use will get shoved to the back of the cupboard/shed.
I live in a Roman city, the editors struggle to display current data.
Imagine what it would be like if *everything* was shown back to the
days of Emperor Nero.
We have the same problem all over the place in keeping historic data
accessible. The argument is always 'How many people will use it' or
'Does it matter if we ignore that' :(
Even providing verifiable timestamps for historic events is a gamble
since the timezone database hides verified data prior to 1970 'because
it's outside the remit'! In which case one needs a reliable source for
time offsets even as recently as the 2nd world war because those
provided by TZ are known to be wrong ... but nobody provides it :(
The fact that there was Roman settlement in an area is very useful
data for a planning department to know if a full archaeological report
is needed.
I agree and point out that that's *exactly* what OHM was set up for.
My own genealogical research would be helped if CURRENT data had a
start_date and then one could see if a street being referenced
actually existed at the time ... that is one for OSM rather than OHM
Date tagging would apply to both OSM & OHM entities.
except the street may have been 'moved' or renamed, at which time the
historic element may become important. And knowing if the street on
the current map was in a different county is also important data. But
where do you go to find out.
By comparing OSM with OHM.
There is no clear distinction as to what is current and what is
historic data.
Sorry but that's wrong. If it's physical object & you can see it, it's
current. If it's a human construct (such as boundaries) and listed as
'current' in the Authorities documents as current, then it's current.
They intertwine and a single documented view of all the data including
that which is becoming history on a daily basis should be the target,
rather than saying 'It's too difficult so lets ignore it'. It's not
difficult for a computer to manage and if people have the desire to
start filling in all the gaps then they should be supported, not told
to go away?
All data is still available no matter where it's stored.
I suspect I'll be repeating myself, so I'm out for now.
Cheers
DaveF
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