The established intention is quite clear, and not unreasonable - so there's
no need for a working group.

Just document that grave_yard is for ones around churches, and cemetery for
separate ones, *and* redirect people to the other tag if they've got the
other situation. Having tried to clarify a wiki entry myself, it was clear
that the key need was to add clarity about the various boundary cases (what
matters is the edge of the definition, not the middle of it).

Richard

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Ciarán Mooney <
general.moo...@googlemail.com> wrote:

> > And I think the discussion of committees to decide or better voting is a
> > hiding to nothing so long as a sizeable proportion of the community
> > doesn't believe in it, as they'll just carry on doing what they've
> > always done. They've stopped even contributing to these discussions,
> > they just get on with it.
>
> Agreed. But we do have the ability to edge people in the right
> direction. I for instance will happily use the presets in JOSM and
> Potlatch because I am lazy. However neither really has any convention
> to go on with many features, and it's the preference of the
> developers. Same for QA tools such as KeepRight.
>
> Having a body of people that openly discuss, and whose decision is
> acted on by third parties would at least provide accepted standards
> and some stability to the dataset. This isn't to say anything is set
> in stone, but provides a clear reference.
>
> Those that wish to carry on can, will, and should. There will be many
> situations that have not yet been thought about and it's better to get
> those features in, and then worry about tagging. Something others
> disagree with understandably but most tags are readable by humans if
> not complete or systematic. (ie amenity=grave_yard, landuse=grave_yard
> could be understood to be the same, however I can see bicycles etc
> provide a clear problem).
>
> Having a board to vote will at least provide a clear system that
> people can participate in and get adequate representation. It would be
> clearly documented so those that wanted a change in presets etc would
> have to present an application to the board. I certainly do not want
> the board deciding what the data in the database should look like, but
> just make it known what is preferred.
>
> There will be a counter-culture of those that disagree with the boards
> decisions, and want to carry on with their methods. However I expect
> the number of tagging zealots is small compared to the more pragmatic
> members. I change my tagging methods quite a lot, when I believe a
> better method has arrived, but I won't necessarily go back and alter
> my previous work. The crowd-source model allows someone else to change
> is for me.
>
> I can see this idea dying a death, but I'd like to talk about it at
> say SOTM etc and see what support it gets from there.
>
> Ciarán
>
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