On 1 Dec 2013, at 10:25, Lester Caine <les...@lsces.co.uk> wrote: > Paul Norman wrote: >>> I know that there is a lot of support for NOT providing services >> I'd say there's a wide desire for offering services like OWL and routing >> on OSM.org. Of course, these take development hours, time, and money, so >> a wide desire doesn't translate into actually adding the services. >> >>> >but until a suitable replacement can be created for the many thousands of >> us >>> >using embeded maps, maintaining usable operation is important. The >>> >current changes are not compatible with using the embed function so THAT >>> >should have beendepricated first and time provided for us to make >>> >changes to existing usage! >> I looked at the embed HTML generated, and I don't see what doesn't work. >> All the links are valid, and the page that you land (the front page) >> seems more likely to covert the visitor to a mapper, because it now >> gives some text to explain where they've ended up. > > Some how I don't think we are looking at the new front page the same way ... > > It's the very fact that it IS designed to make 'convert to mapper' the > REQUIRED result that is the problem. What is preferable is a half way house > that provides the information ON THE ONE PAGE that can be used as the 'Larger > View' from the embeded versions. I don't see why simply restoring the old > front page for that purpose should be any additional work? The map used on > that page can be the new view and switches to the mapping front end when > someone has time to follow that path. I can see a compromise that gives an > information panel to the right in place of the welcome box but supporting > THAT needs work, where a simple 'old.osm' url would be a lot less work? > > It sounds as if I'm going to have to create my own site to support this ... > While I can see that on the whole the new front end has a number of nice > features it IS too targeted at a different goal, and as an information page > for OSM it fails miserably so something better is needed! The wiki front page > is a bit of a mess, but is much more useful now, but the fundamental problem > of taking new mappers to LOCAL support is even less well supported now? It > seems that everybody has to work in English if they want to use OSM :(
You could implement something similar to what Leaflet Maps Marker WordPress plugin has done and provide a full screen alternative. http://www.mapsmarker.com/ osm.org is aimed at mappers and people mapping, rather than as a general purpose go to site for navigation. Shaun > > And I still need to find out where the 'export' is intended to go? Is that > were we should be able to create embeded frames or somewhere else? Share does > not provide the material and hacking the code manually is not something > novice users can do easily. In the past my clients could play with this, but > at present there is nothing suitable. > > -- > Lester Caine - G8HFL > ----------------------------- > Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk > EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk > Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
