On 29/05/2015, SomeoneElse <li...@atownsend.org.uk> wrote: > On 29/05/2015 07:07, Andrew Hain wrote: >> Thank you Dave. As a British mapper I am ashamed that some people want >> to make the map of my country less useful, and not only to Russian >> speakers a long way away. > > Hang on, where is _anybody_ saying that? The whole point of the thread > is about whether it would be possible to use wikidata to make the map > _more_ useful to people who don't speak a particular language, not > less.
The thread opening was indeed about using wikidata translations (which would make the map more usefull for all) and perhaps deprecating name:CC in OSM as a result (which is much more debatable). But then the question came up (By Richard I think ?) of which name:CC should be kept for a particular object, and the large number of name:ru in the UK (reverted by you and others) was given as an example of an unaccepable name:CC. And then some agreed that name:en in non-English-speaking coutries should get the same treatment. This second paragraph can be seen as making the map less useful (I share that POV). It has been argued that the reverts were justified because the names were just transliterations and not real names, but I think that this was overzealous (it wasn't blind tranliteration, there was human skill involved). Even if it was justified, the reversals were either sloppy or biased : see http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/10021976/history which got "name:ru Лестер" deleted but was allowed to keep "name:uk Лестер". And just to be clear: pushing the decision of whether Лестер is the correct russian name of Leicester to wikidata just so that OSM looks cleaner is not a solution. _______________________________________________ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
