Just for the record: Enforcing attribution for services that you are providing directly (aka tiles in some form) only has a small overlap with the goals of the attribution guideline, and the avenues open to you depend on your ToUs / contracts with your users and the legal situation in the countries you are providing the service in.
I would be very very wary of doing anything that deliberately defaces a web site without consulting with a local (to the country the web site is in) lawyer, particularly if the message implies wrong doing. The safe, I admit also the less fun, option, is to simply block access after giving any required notice. Simon Am 08.03.2020 um 11:04 schrieb Yves: > This looks at first as a nuisance that could be perceived as a bad > move, but the feedback you're receiving rather prove the contrary. > Well done! > Ps: would you share your nginx partial redirect, I may consider it for > Opensnowmap tiles policy? > > Le 8 mars 2020 10:14:58 GMT+01:00, Christian Quest > <cqu...@openstreetmap.fr> a écrit : > > Here is a hort report on this experiment... > > I started a week ago by searching OSM France tile server logs for > referer and checked manually if the map on the refering page was > correctly attributed. > > This allowed me to create a short list of 20 entries of sites > using the french styled tiles and the humanitarian tiles (yes, it > is made by OSM France). > > > I then modified our nginx based proxy_cache configuration, to > redirect some tiles to an "attribution tile" only for the domain > in the list. > > For two of them, I tweeted about it... the most visible one is the > moroco yellow page service, generating a little less than a > million daily tile requests on our servers. > > https://twitter.com/cq94/status/1234516075695525888 > > In less than 24 hours, the attribution appeared and I removed them > from the list. > > https://twitter.com/cq94/status/1234779931537739776 > > > Then I included an email address in the attribution reminder > tile... and got emails back within a few hours. > > Some were asking how to do the attribution, others telling me the > attribution was now ok and asking how to remove the reminder tiles. > > In my answers, I also remind that our tile service made by > volunteers on donated hardware is not unlimited and inviting them > to have a look at switch2osm to setup their own tile server or use > a commercial provider. > > Up to now, nobody complained :) > > > Yesterday, I've started automating attribution checking using > selenium. For each referer, a python script loads the page, > searches for tiles, then looks for attribution text or link. The > result is stored in a postgresql database which allows to group > referers by url, hostname and ip. > > The attribution percentage I currently see is around 70-80% which > is not that bad. > > My next major step is to use the same technique to remind about > tile usage policy... > > > To do something similar on osm.org, a first step is to extract > referers from the cache logs, then use the automated attribution > check to evaluate the situation. > > > Le 08/03/2020 à 01:52, Nuno Caldeira a écrit : >> That would be a good option for those that use third party >> providers of OSM. But to be honest, from my experience I highly >> doubt that even corporate members of OSMF, like Mapbox would do >> it, when their client Facebook (also corporate member of OSMF) >> after one year and half, still has maps with lack of attribution >> or attributed to HERE, when it's clearly OSM. >> >> On Sun, 8 Mar 2020, 00:46 Phil Wyatt, <p...@wyatt-family.com >> <mailto:p...@wyatt-family.com>> wrote: >> >> I am sure others may have seen this 'blacklist' >> implementation for showing a reminder about attribution. >> >> https://twitter.com/cq94/status/1234528717604577282 >> >> Worthy of consideration for openstreetmap.org >> <http://openstreetmap.org>? >> >> Cheers - Phil >> > -- > Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France > > > _______________________________________________ > talk mailing list > talk@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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