To me, the most important in attribution is to make potential contributors aware of the project. So the overlap is not that small in this regard.
Yves Le 8 mars 2020 12:12:48 GMT+01:00, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch> a écrit : >Just for the record: > >Enforcing attribution for services that you are providing directly (aka >tiles in some form) only has a small overlap with the goals of the >attribution guideline, and the avenues open to you depend on your ToUs >/ >contracts with your users and the legal situation in the countries you >are providing the service in. > >I would be very very wary of doing anything that deliberately defaces a >web site without consulting with a local (to the country the web site >is >in) lawyer, particularly if the message implies wrong doing. The safe, >I >admit also the less fun, option, is to simply block access after giving >any required notice. > >Simon > >Am 08.03.2020 um 11:04 schrieb Yves: >> This looks at first as a nuisance that could be perceived as a bad >> move, but the feedback you're receiving rather prove the contrary. >> Well done! >> Ps: would you share your nginx partial redirect, I may consider it >for >> Opensnowmap tiles policy? >> >> Le 8 mars 2020 10:14:58 GMT+01:00, Christian Quest >> <cqu...@openstreetmap.fr> a écrit : >> >> Here is a hort report on this experiment... >> >> I started a week ago by searching OSM France tile server logs for >> referer and checked manually if the map on the refering page was >> correctly attributed. >> >> This allowed me to create a short list of 20 entries of sites >> using the french styled tiles and the humanitarian tiles (yes, it >> is made by OSM France). >> >> >> I then modified our nginx based proxy_cache configuration, to >> redirect some tiles to an "attribution tile" only for the domain >> in the list. >> >> For two of them, I tweeted about it... the most visible one is >the >> moroco yellow page service, generating a little less than a >> million daily tile requests on our servers. >> >> https://twitter.com/cq94/status/1234516075695525888 >> >> In less than 24 hours, the attribution appeared and I removed >them >> from the list. >> >> https://twitter.com/cq94/status/1234779931537739776 >> >> >> Then I included an email address in the attribution reminder >> tile... and got emails back within a few hours. >> >> Some were asking how to do the attribution, others telling me the >> attribution was now ok and asking how to remove the reminder >tiles. >> >> In my answers, I also remind that our tile service made by >> volunteers on donated hardware is not unlimited and inviting them >> to have a look at switch2osm to setup their own tile server or >use >> a commercial provider. >> >> Up to now, nobody complained :) >> >> >> Yesterday, I've started automating attribution checking using >> selenium. For each referer, a python script loads the page, >> searches for tiles, then looks for attribution text or link. The >> result is stored in a postgresql database which allows to group >> referers by url, hostname and ip. >> >> The attribution percentage I currently see is around 70-80% which >> is not that bad. >> >> My next major step is to use the same technique to remind about >> tile usage policy... >> >> >> To do something similar on osm.org, a first step is to extract >> referers from the cache logs, then use the automated attribution >> check to evaluate the situation. >> >> >> Le 08/03/2020 à 01:52, Nuno Caldeira a écrit : >>> That would be a good option for those that use third party >>> providers of OSM. But to be honest, from my experience I highly >>> doubt that even corporate members of OSMF, like Mapbox would do >>> it, when their client Facebook (also corporate member of OSMF) >>> after one year and half, still has maps with lack of attribution >>> or attributed to HERE, when it's clearly OSM. >>> >>> On Sun, 8 Mar 2020, 00:46 Phil Wyatt, <p...@wyatt-family.com >>> <mailto:p...@wyatt-family.com>> wrote: >>> >>> I am sure others may have seen this 'blacklist' >>> implementation for showing a reminder about attribution. >>> >>> https://twitter.com/cq94/status/1234528717604577282 >>> >>> Worthy of consideration for openstreetmap.org >>> <http://openstreetmap.org>? >>> >>> Cheers - Phil >>> >> -- >> Christian Quest - OpenStreetMap France >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> talk mailing list >> talk@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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