-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Thomas F [TF] wrote:
ACM>> I don't see how much easier that can get considering the ACM>> automation that has been achieved through that simple task!! TF> You are right in this example. How about the example given at TF> http://www.ginkyo.org/contenu/pages/TheBat/thebat_macros.htm ? A TF> button labeld "translate date into local language" could put the TF> whole thing into the template. The developers can't be expected to create a nice little button for each of the useful things achieved by end user construction of complex macros??? It's true that their macro list is increasing steadily. Looking at the complete list of macros tells us this. We can't however, put them all in drop down menus. We can't expect a macro to be created for all the things out there that have been written. There are so many subtle variations and tweaks out there anyway. Can you tweak the nice little button or can you tweak the macro itself, which brings you right back to square one. ACM>> Who really cares about the format of the macro itself, i.e., ACM>> whether or not it carries a % sign? In fact this is better since ACM>> you can tell where the macros are so it's easier to see what the ACM>> template is doing. TF> You would still be able to see the macro as created by hitting the TF> button. You hit a menu selection and the macro appeared in plain text. What makes it harder to understand or do than hitting a button? <it's a rhetorical question really. I steadfastly do not think it's harder :-)> TF> In my experience, a GUI never gives you the power you have with a TF> CLI (see the random cookie!). The clickable buttons would only TF> insert pre-written macros/regexes. The CLI would still be TF> available. But that is what you're doing with the macro button menu items. Inserting them. How are you going to deal with the rest of your none macro based text? You have to have it flowing as it does now. I like MDaemons filtering system which has an approach to what you're thinking. It's really not that different from what TB! does at present. TF> Example (maybe not really good): Instead of c&p'ing the Spamcop TF> filters from the FAQ page, imagine there would be a button labeled TF> "create SpamCop filters". My mother (who loves TB but has no idea TF> about templates, macros, or regexes) could use it. ;-) Example not good. <g> I see your point but I don't see where it's needed here. I assure you that users would remain confused considering what these templates can do. If they're confused with the current implementation then they'll remain confused with other methods. I think what has happened is that the list is so mature, that regex macros are being spoken of and passed around as if it's a trivial matter to create them and that everyone should be able to do it with little effort, and if this isn't so, then blame the interface. I simply cannot agree with that. - -- -=Allie C Martin=- List Moderator | TB! v1.60q | Windows XP Pro PGP/GPG Public Key: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?Subject=2B0717E2 _________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAj0Ps6oACgkQV8nrYCsHF+JnRwCeMrmXc5Wl3DzzUezOczDS6VY7 Ad8AoIxgVljHBcVjeXhjCEXvN+3nNIHe =Ziog -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ________________________________________________________ Current Ver: 1.60q FAQ : http://faq.thebat.dutaint.com Unsubscribe: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives : http://tbudl.thebat.dutaint.com Moderators : mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] TBTech List: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Bug Reports: https://www.ritlabs.com/bt/