It isn't that hard to understand. Quite clear actually.
He stated facts about the USGS and then some opinions
from Wildlife Department biologists and himself.
You obviously don't agree, so you use words like
"rant" and "shoot off their mouth". You might want to
change your field of study to global warming. You'd fit
right in with that "scientific" crowd.
Mike
On 6/11/2014 9:25 PM, Debbie Buecher wrote:
Hi Steve,
I could not entirely understand your most recent rant but that is not
entirely new.
I have _*REAL*_ scientific data that I have presented a number of
times at SWR paper regionals that documents bat hibernacula
microclimate data (temperatures and RH) from both AZ and NM bat
roosts. It shows conclusively that these caves have appropriate
microclimate for Pseudogymnoascus destructans//to flourish. I am
currently preparing a manuscript for a peer-reviewed journal to report
these findings. If you were a scientist you would understand the
rigorous protocols that scientists must follow in order to publish
findings. Cavers are more fortunate because they are free to shoot
off their mouth without checking with anyone first.
Cheers,
Debbie
/Debbie Buecher/
/Buecher Biological Consulting/
/
/
Stephen Fleming <casto...@gmail.com> wrote:
On 06/11/2014 7:17, Debbie Buecher wrote:
Hi ET,
The cave myotis in southern Arizona go up in elevation and enter
hibernation in late Sept and come out in April. Myotis are the
hardest hit back east so we have real concerns for their counterparts
in the West.
Debbie
Your statement about cave myotis is deflated by the May 6, 2014 press
release from the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation noting
that not only had
"scientists with the U.S. Geological Survey National Wildlife Health
Center have dropped Oklahoma from the list of areas where White-Nose
Syndrome in bats has been suspected or confirmed."
But,
*"The scientists have also removed the Cave Myotis (Myotis velifer)
from the list of bat species that have tested positive for the fungus
(Pseudogymnoascus destructans) that has been associated with
White-Nose Syndrome..."*
And,
"Wildlife Department biologists commended the U.S. Geological Survey
National Wildlife Heath Center's continued efforts *to ensure accuracy
and transparency in diagnostic results.*"
That ranks right up there with removing Oklahoma from the Chicken
Little list. It actually is refreshing because, except for the USGS,
we have seen _zero_ accuracy and transparency from any other agency or
groups-with-agendas from the get-go of this problem.
The USGS obviously holds science and professionalism in much higher
regard than various land agencies. The land agencies ought to be
embarrassed for substituting fiction for fact, but it's clear they
aren't troubled in the least by their actions, which constitute
serious lapses of judgment and professionalism. It's clear they
believe they are not accountable for their actions. And, they are not
if the public does not hold them accountable.
Because agencies are doing things without having an articulable (legal
definition: capable of being expressed, explained, or justified) basis
as to why, and they simply don't care that it's obvious their actions
are a total sham to everyone with the ability to think and question.
Remember, if you are a tourist at Mammoth Cave in the heart of proven
WNS cases, you not only can go into a completely open cave, where WNS
has been _*confirmed*_, but your "decon" is to stroll across some
silly bio-mat on your way out and on to the next tourist cave.
However, if you are in NM, hundreds and hundreds of miles from any
WNS, caves are nearly completely closed because they're deemed "at
risk" (without so much as a scintilla of proof) and if you can get
into one you have to boil your clothes, and jump through other hoops,
repeatedly. That's hardly science, and it certainly isn't
"management." Professionalism is not the word that comes to mind.
Voodoo and "we don't care about the science, or what anyone thinks;
we're in charge" does.
Wrong on every level.
Stephen
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