The Ruritanian Müsli-Kreppendorfer in 16.5 mm is preferred in some speleo circles.
 
R Rassendyll


Feb 21, 2010 09:51:08 PM, a...@oztotl.com wrote:

I have been caving in Arizona with cavers who carried guns while caving.  It seems that other cavers are not too friendly to cavers they find in those caves that no one speaks of.  Hopefully Texas won't get that way. 
 
Um, actually, I have never been caving in Arizona because they have no caves!  ;-)
 
Allan
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