I don't believe in Karma. We are living on "earth", not "heaven". Therefore, life will not always be perfect. If you follow that line of thinking, Karma, then what did the little children do to deserve abuse?, etc. Karma doesn't make sense to me. Things will be perfect when we reach heaven and, I believe, those who suffer on earth, will reach heaven. Just remember, God has to choose our time, not us. Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Wolfthal" <wolft...@optonline.net>
To: <kimr1...@bellsouth.net>; <tmic-list@eskimo.com>
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2009 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] Relationships



I believe in Karma, but it makes me ask myself..did I do something bad and my Karma caused me to get TM? I've tried to live my life with the Golden Rule, but I've made lots of mistakes. Anyway..I figured out what John Lennon's song 'Instant Karma' meant, awhile back.

Kevin




kimr1...@bellsouth.net wrote:
Karma, Karma, Karma.... gets um back!

    -------------- Original message from "Janice"
    <jan...@centurytel.net>: --------------


    > You are right. Those of us who have not had to fight society and
    family
    > are extremely fortunate. Couldn't help but notice
    > that the people causing you two so much grief ended up with
    worse problems.
    > Wonder where that came from?! Janice
    >
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: "Kevin Wolfthal"
    > To: ;
    > Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 6:05 AM
    > Subject: Re: [TMIC] Relationships
    >
    >
    > >
    > > When TM hit me, I kept working until I no longer could. In
    fact I pushed
    > > myself even harder than before..probably a mistake. My boss
    said once,
    > > "what's with all the sick", never asking what was my DX. He
    subsequently
    > > found out what "sick" was when he lost his only two sons, one
    to cancer
    > > and the other to a heart attack. Instead of making him more
    > > understanding,
    > > he treated me even worse. He was eventually pushed out, but his
    > > replacement
    > > wasn't much better. After I left, they found out just how much
    work i was
    > > doing, even with TM, and it took them a year to replace me.
    They also
    > > cheated me out of my private disability benefit. Now there are
    many
    > > layoffs there
    > > because of the economy. What goes around comes around. But I miss
    > > working and loved my job.
    > >
    > > I'm glad for you that you are happy and still able to work.
    > >
    > > Kevin
    > >
    > >
    > > rj_ran...@yahoo.com wrote:
    > >> Been there. I was diagnosed with ms. Year later tm. I was
    engaged when tm
    > >> hit. The future mom n law became the embodiment of hell. I
    still hate
    > >> her. So didn't marry. Work was a problem. After I lost my
    bladder I had
    > >> to self cath only problem I teach and the bosses made us call
    to leave
    > >> the room. I had to explain my situation and he cut me off in
    anger and
    > >> said he didn't wanna hear it. It was hard enough to build up
    guts to tell
    > >> him and for him to walk out in that manner was really
    upsetting. But a
    > >> year later his wife had a heart attack and his second in
    charge, who also
    > >> treated me badly, had a stroke and is in worse shape than me. I
    > >> transfered and am much happier. ------Original Message------
    > >> From: Kevin Wolfthal
    > >> To: tmic-list@eskimo.com
    > >> Subject: Re: [TMIC] Relationships
    > >> Sent: Jun 12, 2009 8:06 PM
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Never having been married, but always wanting a family, TM
    took away even
    > >> my desire for that.
    > >>
    > >> My relationships, most "friends" disappeared. Relatives act
    like TM is
    > >> contagious. Only my Mom
    > >> has stayed constant. I help her the best I can, (she'll be 86
    next
    > >> week), and this has been a scary
    > >> year. My Mom collapsed several months ago. I somehow got to
    her and
    > >> gave her CPR, and she
    > >> started to breathe again. She then spent 6 weeks in a nursing
    home. The
    > >> rest of my family just
    > >> wants to see both of us in a nursing home.
    > >>
    > >> Those of you who have had family and friends stick by you,
    consider
    > >> yourself fortunate.
    > >>
    > >> Kevin
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Todd Tarno wrote:
    > >>
    > >>> TM has made Billy & mines relationship stronger.
    > >>> I did ask him when TM hit ( when we knew it was going to be
    a long road
    > >>> to recovery ) and we had only been together for 5 years & he
    hadn't
    > >>> signed up for this, " Do you want to stay together or not ?
    " He was so
    > >>> bad at me for even asking the question in the first place,
    but I knew
    > >>> then that he was in for the long road to recovery too.
    > >>> I had started a cross stitch of our anniversary date, it was
    half done
    > >>> when TM hit, but that was the first thing I finished in
    between naps.
    > >>> lol
    > >>> Now it's been 7 years with TM & we will have been together
    these Nov.
    > >>> will be 12 years.
    > >>> May all of our relationships are stronger today,
    > >>> Todd in CC, TX
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> --- On *Thu, 6/11/09, Janice //* wrote:
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>> From: Janice
    > >>> Subject: [TMIC]
    > >>> To: "transverse myelitis"
    > >>> Date: Thursday, June 11, 2009, 10:38 PM
    > >>>
    > >>> It's Janice again. I have something else that I have wondered
    > >>> about and have decided to just ask and see what is out there.
    > >>> Do you feel that having TM has improved or destroyed the
    > >>> love/happiness in your marriage/relationship with your partner?
    > >>>
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>
    > >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
    > >>
    > >>
    > >
    > >
    >
    >




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