most of the time i cant stand to have anything at all on my legs

good to see that some get relief 


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 From: Dalton Garis <malugss...@gmail.com>
To: pat cooley <patticoole...@gmail.com>; pjv1...@chartermi.net 
Cc: Gillian Clark <mingalett...@activ8.net.au>; TM list <tmic-list@eskimo.com> 
Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles
 

The best way to keep warm without getting that pins and needles feeling for me;

Is to just wear my flannel pajamas under my pants.  They are loose, soft and 
smooth, and don't trigger those fiery attacks that send me into seizures.

Dalton
From:  pat cooley <patticoole...@gmail.com>
Date:  Sun, 1 Jan 2012 09:45:47 -0600
To:  <pjv1...@chartermi.net>
Cc:  Gillian Clark <mingalett...@activ8.net.au>, TM list <tmic-list@eskimo.com>
Subject:  Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles
Resent-From:  <tmic-list@eskimo.com>
Resent-Date:  Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:49:01 -0800


Patti I have found that the cold is much worse for me.  I have found that if I 
wear soft long underwear under my jeans it doesn't bother me and helps to keep 
me warmer.  I too always have the pins & needles plus the burning/freezing all 
the time, but it is so much worse in the evening..  I believe that I have 
learned to live with it since I am able to fall asleep and stay asleep all 
night except to go potty at least once maybe twice.  I have also been told by 
doctors that the pins & needles in the feet is called neuropathy, which is the 
same nerve pain that people with diabetes suffer from.  I have a good friend 
with diabetes and has suffered with it for years.
> 
>Patti in Wisconsin
>
>
>On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 9:22 PM, <pjv1...@chartermi.net> wrote:
>
>Gilly
>>You are right to remide us about cothes, shoes and sock contributing to our 
>>TM pain.  I think I've posted for eight straight winters that wearing blue 
>>jeans in cold weather puts me right to bed due the the intense pain the cold 
>>material causes. New TMers beware! It isn't just the heat that causes 
>>additional painful sensations.  The cold weather causes its own set of 
>>problems.  
>>
>>Patti - Michigan  
>>
>>
>>On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Gillian Clark wrote:
>>
>> John, the sad fact is that  nothing really takes it away, I have so far 
>>racked up a bit over 10 years of  it. 
>>  
>>I must say though that I do  believe it has decreased somewhat.  Either that 
>>or I'm just used to  it. 
>>  
>>I don't do meds as all they  did was make me completely spaced out or zombie 
>>like and the pain was still  there.  Strangely enough, just the everyday 
>>little old aspro or Panadol  help.  Maybe because they concentrate on any 
>>other unrelated pain that then  lessons the tm residuals.  I have no idea 
>>why, I just know that's what  happens for me. 
>>  
>>There are other external  causes.  The shoes you wear, your socks (always 
>>wear them inside out), the  clothes you wear, particularly the type of 
>>material.  I found that by  paying attention to these things, I can lesson 
>>(not by a whole lot) these  annoying freeze/burn feelings. 
>>  
>>Gilly 
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: john snodgrass
>>To: James Berg; pjv1...@chartermi.net
>>Cc: tmic
>>Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:47    AM 
>>Subject: Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and    Needles 
>>
>>was    talking with the neurologist yesterday about the buzzing,vibrating 
>>feeling    that sometimes go all the way into my chest but stays mainly in my 
>>legs and    feet,,,,when its not buzzing it is burning. he called it 
>>something but i    failed to write it down. 
>>
>>I    tried MJ but for me,,,it made it intensify! 
>>
>>nothing    i have taken to date has had any positive effect on that symptom. 
>>
>>creams,muscle rubs,neuronton,baclofen,  Xanax ,valium,Lyrica    alcohol,MJ.   
>>
>>
>>scratch    that off my to do list. 
>>
>>
>>___________________________________
>>
>>From: James Berg    <molokai...@gmail.com> 
>>To: pjv1...@chartermi.net 
>>Cc: tmic <tmic-list@eskimo.com> 
>>Sent: Friday, December 30,    2011 4:05 PM 
>>Subject: Re:    [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles 
>>
>>Gerry and Pati--you can control the cost by buying your meds a River    
>>Pharmacy--out of India--they are honest and the drug is quality 
>>  
>>Jim 
>>
>>
>>On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, < pjv1...@chartermi.net> wrote: 
>>Gerry, 
>>Many of us faced the same      thing.  Movement and feeling also brought the 
>>feeling of pins and      needles.  
>>
>>I've taken Lyrica for about      three years - it helps a lot.  I don't know 
>>about side effects except      the cost can empty your wallet.  I would have 
>>stuck with gabapentin,      but it was unpredictable.  Lyrica starts working 
>>witin 15      minutes.  Gabapenten took an hour or two to work. 
>>
>>The best pan reliever is      laughter and the posts I read tonight relieved 
>>my pain for a while.  
>>
>>The antidepressant,      Cymbalta, might help with the pins and needles.  Of 
>>course, it's      another drug with a lot of side effects.  
>>
>>Pati -      Michigan 
>>
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