Thanks Dalton ~ we appreciate you very much!

Linda (Eagle, ID)
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: pat cooley<mailto:patticoole...@gmail.com> 
  To: john snodgrass<mailto:jcs...@yahoo.com> 
  Cc: Dalton Garis<mailto:malugss...@gmail.com> ; TM 
list<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com> 
  Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:37 AM
  Subject: Re: [TMIC] New Year Prayer for all of us


  Thanks Dalton.


  On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 11:12 AM, john snodgrass 
<jcs...@yahoo.com<mailto:jcs...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

    thanks Dalton



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    From: Dalton Garis <malugss...@gmail.com<mailto:malugss...@gmail.com>>
    To: TM list <tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com>> 
    Sent: Sunday, January 1, 2012 11:10 AM
    Subject: Re: [TMIC] New Year Prayer for all of us



    Fellow sufferers;


    I offer this prayer, called the Remover of Difficulties prayer, which I 
have recited for decades, sometimes 400-500 times/day in times of great pain or 
stress, for inner calm and the expectation of better things to come from 
sources and directions I did not imagine.


    Is there any Remover of Difficulties save God?  
    Say: Praised be God.  He is God.
    All are His servants, and all abide by His bidding.


    Love,


    Dalton






    From: pat cooley <patticoole...@gmail.com<mailto:patticoole...@gmail.com>>
    Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 09:45:47 -0600
    To: <pjv1...@chartermi.net<mailto:pjv1...@chartermi.net>>
    Cc: Gillian Clark 
<mingalett...@activ8.net.au<mailto:mingalett...@activ8.net.au>>, TM list 
<tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com>>
    Subject: Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles
    Resent-From: <tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com>>
    Resent-Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 07:49:01 -0800



      Patti I have found that the cold is much worse for me.  I have found that 
if I wear soft long underwear under my jeans it doesn't bother me and helps to 
keep me warmer.  I too always have the pins & needles plus the burning/freezing 
all the time, but it is so much worse in the evening..  I believe that I have 
learned to live with it since I am able to fall asleep and stay asleep all 
night except to go potty at least once maybe twice.  I have also been told by 
doctors that the pins & needles in the feet is called neuropathy, which is the 
same nerve pain that people with diabetes suffer from.  I have a good friend 
with diabetes and has suffered with it for years.

      Patti in Wisconsin


      On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 9:22 PM, 
<pjv1...@chartermi.net<mailto:pjv1...@chartermi.net>> wrote:

        Gilly
        You are right to remide us about cothes, shoes and sock contributing to 
our TM pain.  I think I've posted for eight straight winters that wearing blue 
jeans in cold weather puts me right to bed due the the intense pain the cold 
material causes. New TMers beware! It isn't just the heat that causes 
additional painful sensations.  The cold weather causes its own set of 
problems.  


        Patti - Michigan  



        On Sat, Dec 31, 2011 at 3:05 AM, Gillian Clark wrote:


         John, the sad fact is that  nothing really takes it away, I have so 
far racked up a bit over 10 years of  it. 
          
        I must say though that I do  believe it has decreased somewhat.  Either 
that or I'm just used to  it. 
          
        I don't do meds as all they  did was make me completely spaced out or 
zombie like and the pain was still  there.  Strangely enough, just the everyday 
little old aspro or Panadol  help.  Maybe because they concentrate on any other 
unrelated pain that then  lessons the tm residuals.  I have no idea why, I just 
know that's what  happens for me. 
          
        There are other external  causes.  The shoes you wear, your socks 
(always wear them inside out), the  clothes you wear, particularly the type of 
material.  I found that by  paying attention to these things, I can lesson (not 
by a whole lot) these  annoying freeze/burn feelings. 
          
        Gilly 
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: john snodgrass<>
        To: James Berg<>; pjv1...@chartermi.net<>
        Cc: tmic<>
        Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 7:47    AM 
        Subject: Re: [TMIC] RE Pins and    Needles 


        was    talking with the neurologist yesterday about the 
buzzing,vibrating feeling    that sometimes go all the way into my chest but 
stays mainly in my legs and    feet,,,,when its not buzzing it is burning. he 
called it something but i    failed to write it down. 


        I    tried MJ but for me,,,it made it intensify! 


        nothing    i have taken to date has had any positive effect on that 
symptom. 


        creams,muscle rubs,neuronton,baclofen,  Xanax ,valium,Lyrica    
alcohol,MJ.   



        scratch    that off my to do list. 



        ___________________________________


        From: James Berg    <molokai...@gmail.com<mailto:molokai...@gmail.com>> 
        To: pjv1...@chartermi.net<mailto:pjv1...@chartermi.net> 
        Cc: tmic <tmic-list@eskimo.com<mailto:tmic-list@eskimo.com>> 
        Sent: Friday, December 30,    2011 4:05 PM 
        Subject: Re:    [TMIC] RE Pins and Needles 


        Gerry and Pati--you can control the cost by buying your meds a River    
Pharmacy--out of India--they are honest and the drug is quality 
          
        Jim 



        On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 6:01 PM, < pjv1...@chartermi.net<>> wrote: 
        Gerry, 
        Many of us faced the same      thing.  Movement and feeling also 
brought the feeling of pins and      needles.  


        I've taken Lyrica for about      three years - it helps a lot.  I don't 
know about side effects except      the cost can empty your wallet.  I would 
have stuck with gabapentin,      but it was unpredictable.  Lyrica starts 
working witin 15      minutes.  Gabapenten took an hour or two to work. 


        The best pan reliever is      laughter and the posts I read tonight 
relieved my pain for a while.  


        The antidepressant,      Cymbalta, might help with the pins and 
needles.  Of course, it's      another drug with a lot of side effects.  


        Pati -      Michigan 












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