\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ 
Greetings yet again Lance in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
 
FOUL BAWL!  Strike one ...
 
At least you made contact ...
 
I am a 'one of a kind' guy (whether you have faith to believe or not).  Almost surprised you don't see at least a glimmer of that.
 
Truth does matter but I'm not advertising -- nothing to sell here.  "Buy the truth and sell it not".  Yet more great words.
 
Oh, and, for the record, "it ain't so Joe".  Women do play a part in the ongoing formation of Scriptural tradition to which I cling.  (It is only "my" tradition in that the love, grace and mercy of Yah permits my clinging to Him and His.)
 
Neither misogyny nor misterogyny here.  I'm an equal opportunity hater ... of sin whether in males or females.  Hate is a family value ... the family of Yah!
 
Ahava b' YahShua
(Love in The SAVIOUR)
Baruch YHVH,
(Bless The LORD)
 
Chris
a servant of YHVH
----- Original Message -----
From: Lance Muir
Sent: 06/04/2004 11:40 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Yo, LANCE -- 1 in more than 100,000

You've got a good 'knuckle ball' Chris. However, it didn't quite slip by me. No! You have indeed traded one tradition (of men) for another tradition (of men). Unless you are a 'one of a kind' guy (I sort of doubt that) then you just moved from one 'team' to another.
Truth in advertising matters.The Gospel is owned by no one (1) tradition, including your own tradition (of men). 
 PS Do women play a part in the ongoing formation of your tradition? I seem to recall hints of misogyny in your prior posts? Say it ain't so Joe.
From: Chris Barr
Sent: June 04, 2004 12:27
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Yo, LANCE -- 1 in more than 100,000

\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ 
Greetings again Lance in the Matchless Name of YahShua !!
 
Amen Lance!  I've traded in TRADITIONs of men for Scriptural TRADITION!
 
"By YOUR traditions YOU have made The Word of The Almighty One of none effect."
 
More great words!
 
Mind you, He didn't say, "less effect" but rather "NONE effect".
 
Seriously, though, there was no trade.  I dropped one (TRADITIONs of men) and then began establishing the other (Scriptural TRADITION).  The process continues.
 
I suppose in baseball terms you could say it was a trade made of one for "later considerations".
 
Ahava b' YahShua
(Love in The SAVIOUR)
Baruch YHVH,
(Bless The LORD)
 
Chris
a servant of YHVH
----- Original Message -----
From: Lance Muir
Sent: 06/04/2004 10:57 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Yo, LANCE -- 1 in more than 100,000

Amen Chris! Obedience does indeed lead one into an ever-deepening understanding of Yah Shua. What one does is what one believes.
 Amen again re: Plato's influence on 'tradition-bound' Christian thought.
 But, Chris, comes a caveat. You've just traded one TRADITION for another. Surely just a little critical evaluation will lead you to the same conclusion.
 I've some idea what (dis)regard you have for TT and its participants. It just might be the case that any who've 'read' you would amen the previous paragraph.
 
Lance 
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Barr
Sent: June 04, 2004 10:49
Subject: [TruthTalk] Yo, LANCE -- 1 in more than 100,000

\o/ !HALALU Yah! \o/ 
Greetings Lance in the Matchless Name of YahShua [that's the name Jesus was called by His mom, dad, brothers, sisters, disciples and others who loved Him] !!
 
Almost 20 years ago, prolific songwriter Michael Card wrote and sang on his 'Present Reality' recording, "We've made You in our image so our faith's idolatry".  Michael has since that become a Sabbath keeper.
 
As for me, I offer 'readings' of Scripture that originate, with the aid of the Holy Spirit but that did not happen until I removed myself from the traditions and extra-Biblical writings of man.
 
When Sabbath, Feasts and New Moon observance FOR TODAY was shown me in Scripture by The Ruach ha Kadosh ("the Holy Spirit") my parents said, "You've been reading Seventh Day Adventist materials".  NOPE ... just Scripture.  Never read any SDA materials for many, MANY years thereafter.  Still have read almost nothing originating from that group.
 
I've shown many a Sabbath keeper (raised up in Sabbath keeping) things about Sabbath that they've never seen.
 
I ditched pagan holidays, birthdays, and blood at the behest of that same Ruach and my parents said, "You've been reading JW material."  NOPE, again ... just Scripture.  Recently a JW has joined with our growing group and he is amazed at all "the truth" I hold without any JW influence.
 
I could go on and on.
 
My father was raised Roman Catholic.  He married my Easter Star mother in a Roman Catholic ceremony.  Before long they were no longer attending church.
 
When I was 4 I attended Assembly of God 'Vacation Bible School'.
 
When I was 5 I observed from the hallway as my parents recited "The Sinner's Prayer" with a local pastor.  I said it with them.
 
I was raised up thereafter in the IFCA (Independent Fundamentalist Christians of America) and Baptist "traditions" (of men) into adulthood.
 
Obedience to The Words from The Word of The Almighty via YirmeYah (Jeremiah) 29:13 has brought The TRUTH of The Almighty to me from His Ruach ha Kadosh.
 
I came to understand Plato's (and much other pagan) influences upon 'Christianity' more than 20 years ago and ditched them.
 
"CONTINUE ye in My Word and ye shall be FREE indeed."
 
Great words.
 
Ahava b' YahShua
(Love in The SAVIOUR)
Baruch YHVH,
(Bless The LORD)
 
Chris
a servant of YHVH
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Lance Muir
Sent: 06/04/2004 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] (no subject)

3. no PS When you read the posts of those on TT you will hear behind their words preachers, books, pamphlets (similar to the one given to you), 'traditions' (that dreaded word again). Not 1 in 1,000 nay, 100,000 will offer 'readings' of Scripture that originate, with the aid of the Holy Spirit, with themselves. It just doesn't happen. I believe that many live in denial of this apparent reality. 

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