"What if the small-minded, boxed-in formulas of modern religion weren't the
Truth?" (previously owned prose)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org>
Sent: January 16, 2005 10:19
Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?


> I especially likes these two portions:
>
> "We have not been afraid to argue strenuously with each other, but our
> arguments have been conducted in a sincere desire genuinely to understand
> each other-and in the process we have formed some deep bonds of
friendship."
>
> Something lacking on TT. I don't think there is a "sincere desire to
> genuinely understand each other" here. I think instead there is a sincere
> desire here to control others' beliefs and tell them how wrong they are.
> This is what I have meant when I have said if it's not a salvation issue,
> then it's a non-issue with me.
>
>
> "I know that I have learned much in this continuing dialogue, and I am now
> convinced that we evangelicals have often seriously misrepresented the
> beliefs and practices of the Mormon community. Indeed, let me state it
> bluntly to the LDS folks here this evening: we have sinned against you.
The
> God of the Scriptures makes it clear that it is a terrible thing to bear
> false witness against our neighbors, and we have been guilty of that sort
of
> transgression in things we have said about you. We have told you what you
> believe without making a sincere effort first of all to ask you what you
> believe."
>
>
> My thinking exactly...which is why I ask Dave H. what he believes...not
what
> others claim he believes. Why is that others know his beliefs more than he
> does? Why is it that others know Messianic beliefs better than we do? I
> think the information get misconstrued, twisted, and turned. I still see a
> problem, though. For instance...this is evil, that is evil....coming from
> someone who doesn't know anything about it. How can you form an opinion of
> something which you have no clue about, that you've never even looked into
> for yourself, that you have absolutely no understanding of, but are
> unwilling to GET any understanding?
>
> The "you" above is not directed at YOU, Blaine, but all of US.
>
> Thank you for posting the article.
>
> Kay
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian?
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> For you on TT who might have an evangelical bent, the following might be
of
> interest.  I did not copy the speech itself, given in the Salt Lake City
> Tabernacle on January 14, 2005, which can be found on
>
> http://www.beliefnet.com/story/156/story_15656_1.html
>
> in case you are interested.  It has stirred quite a fuss among other
> evangelicals
>
>
>
>
>    'We Have Sinned Against You'
> A leading evangelical speaks at the Mormon Tabernacle and says
evangelicals
> have spread lies about LDS beliefs.
>
> By Richard Mouw
>
>
>
> For the first time in 105 years, non-Mormons mounted the pulpit at the
> Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City on Nov. 14. The event, dubbed an
> "Evening of Friendship," was organized by Standing Together, a network of
> 100 evangelical churches trying to improve relations with members of The
> Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Historical animosity dating
> back to the founding of the LDS Church has heightened in recent years
> between the two groups, particularly in the 1990s, when high-profile
> evangelical leaders said that Mormons are not Christians and the Southern
> Baptist Convention held one of its annual meetings in Salt Lake City,
> partially with the goal of converting Mormons to evangelical
Protestantism.
>
> In what the Deseret News referred to as "stunningly candid" comments,
Fuller
> Theological Seminary president and Beliefnet columnist Richard J. Mouw
> apologized to Mormons for evangelicals' tendency to distort the truth
about
> Latter-day Saints' beliefs. "Let me state it clearly. We evangelicals have
> sinned against you," Mouw said. The speech is making the rounds among
> surprised and generally pleased evangelical and Mormon groups. We reprint
> the remarks below.
>
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know
> how you ought to answer every man."  (Colossians 4:6)
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