"What if the small-minded, boxed-in formulas of modern religion weren't the Truth?" (previously owned prose)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Slade Henson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org> Sent: January 16, 2005 10:19 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian? > I especially likes these two portions: > > "We have not been afraid to argue strenuously with each other, but our > arguments have been conducted in a sincere desire genuinely to understand > each other-and in the process we have formed some deep bonds of friendship." > > Something lacking on TT. I don't think there is a "sincere desire to > genuinely understand each other" here. I think instead there is a sincere > desire here to control others' beliefs and tell them how wrong they are. > This is what I have meant when I have said if it's not a salvation issue, > then it's a non-issue with me. > > > "I know that I have learned much in this continuing dialogue, and I am now > convinced that we evangelicals have often seriously misrepresented the > beliefs and practices of the Mormon community. Indeed, let me state it > bluntly to the LDS folks here this evening: we have sinned against you. The > God of the Scriptures makes it clear that it is a terrible thing to bear > false witness against our neighbors, and we have been guilty of that sort of > transgression in things we have said about you. We have told you what you > believe without making a sincere effort first of all to ask you what you > believe." > > > My thinking exactly...which is why I ask Dave H. what he believes...not what > others claim he believes. Why is that others know his beliefs more than he > does? Why is it that others know Messianic beliefs better than we do? I > think the information get misconstrued, twisted, and turned. I still see a > problem, though. For instance...this is evil, that is evil....coming from > someone who doesn't know anything about it. How can you form an opinion of > something which you have no clue about, that you've never even looked into > for yourself, that you have absolutely no understanding of, but are > unwilling to GET any understanding? > > The "you" above is not directed at YOU, Blaine, but all of US. > > Thank you for posting the article. > > Kay > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, 16 January, 2005 10.04 > To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org > Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] What is a Christian? > > > > > For you on TT who might have an evangelical bent, the following might be of > interest. I did not copy the speech itself, given in the Salt Lake City > Tabernacle on January 14, 2005, which can be found on > > http://www.beliefnet.com/story/156/story_15656_1.html > > in case you are interested. It has stirred quite a fuss among other > evangelicals > > > > > 'We Have Sinned Against You' > A leading evangelical speaks at the Mormon Tabernacle and says evangelicals > have spread lies about LDS beliefs. > > By Richard Mouw > > > > For the first time in 105 years, non-Mormons mounted the pulpit at the > Mormon Tabernacle in Salt Lake City on Nov. 14. The event, dubbed an > "Evening of Friendship," was organized by Standing Together, a network of > 100 evangelical churches trying to improve relations with members of The > Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Historical animosity dating > back to the founding of the LDS Church has heightened in recent years > between the two groups, particularly in the 1990s, when high-profile > evangelical leaders said that Mormons are not Christians and the Southern > Baptist Convention held one of its annual meetings in Salt Lake City, > partially with the goal of converting Mormons to evangelical Protestantism. > > In what the Deseret News referred to as "stunningly candid" comments, Fuller > Theological Seminary president and Beliefnet columnist Richard J. Mouw > apologized to Mormons for evangelicals' tendency to distort the truth about > Latter-day Saints' beliefs. "Let me state it clearly. We evangelicals have > sinned against you," Mouw said. The speech is making the rounds among > surprised and generally pleased evangelical and Mormon groups. We reprint > the remarks below. > > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know > how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) > http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a > friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. > > ---------- > "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." (Colossians 4:6) http://www.InnGlory.org > > If you do not want to receive posts from this list, send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and you will be unsubscribed. If you have a friend who wants to join, tell him to send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and he will be subscribed. ---------- "Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man." 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