So, what is the best way to log users off cleanly in mass?  You
certainly can't depend on users to log off for themselves.  Asking,
begging, threatening....none of that works.  I know for certain if I log
in at 03:00, there will be 15 to 20 users still logged in, even though
the building has been empty for hours.

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Sometimes I wake up grumpy.  Other times I let her sleep.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Timothy Snyder
> Sent: Monday, September 17, 2007 3:09 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] UniVerse and Shadow copy on Windows 2003
> 
> > The only way to guarantee business level data integrity in
> non-transactional 
> > applications is to force all users off the system briefly 
> while you do
> steps 
> > 1 - 3.
> 
> That's a good point.  However, it's important to have a 
> controlled way to do so.  I've had people think they were 
> safe to just log everybody off. Of course, there's no way to 
> ensure you're not doing *that* in the middle of a transaction. ;-)
> 
> Much worse, I've even had people with good intentions of 
> getting everybody off of the system so they could have stable 
> backups.  How did they do it? 
> With stopud -f or by doing a kill -9 on each user.  Either 
> one could create a mess at least as bad as backing up hot, 
> since processes are not terminated cleanly.  Actually, the 
> mess could be worse with the unconditional kill methods, 
> since they could result in corruption of the live database 
> files, while backing up hot only impacts the backup copy. 
> And if you do that while running RFS, head for the hills.
> 
> Tim Snyder
> Consulting I/T Specialist
> U2 Lab Services
> Information Management, IBM Software Group
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