I use mv-developer from Brian Leach.
Works great for me.
On 29/04/2011 15:25, Bill Brutzman wrote:
Mecki:
What editor is in use there?
Please advise...
--Bill
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann
Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Saying Goodbye... Reasons not to say goodbye.
Doug,
Fine, Eclipse may be a full blown IDE, but I still can download it from the net
for free and use it without having to pay an annual license fee.
Why?
Because it is open source perhaps?
So where do the 'hundreds of millions of development dollars' come from?
Donated by companies like yours?
Yeah, right!
But that still won't convince my boss to pay for a XLr8Editor license.
I don't need 200 copies of every program I'm working on.
Why would I want to compare the current version with the one before I wrote a
block of code?
I don't need a fancy tool to tell me that I hadn't written that particular
piece of code half an hour ago.
I hardly ever use the copy verb, and with the editor I'm currently using the
clipboard or Save as do the job just fine.
Version control? - No need for it either.
We use PRC and that takes care of that.
It works with SB+ paragraphs and dialog, screen, report writer and field
definitions too, which I don't think your editor or Windows Team Foundation
Server will.
Searching for lines of code in BP?
Well, FIND is a bit awkward and I don't fancy Unix commands that much, but I
seldom have the need for that either.
I wish UniData had the ACC-FIND verb I had on ADDS Mentor, though.
And since I don't just type UniBasic code all day I can't see how I could save
an hour a day just by using another editor.
Testing and figuring out what users really want and how to convert that into
code are the most time consuming tasks after all.
And hey, I'm on salary and the job always gets done - so where is the saving?
They could lower my salary because with the new tool I'll be sitting around
twiddling my thumbs for an hour each day of course.
Don't give them any ideas!
but keep trying :-)
Mecki
On 29/04/2011 01:01, Doug Averch wrote:
Hi Mecki:
Whenever we get into discussions about editors, everyone mentions this
editor they got for free or this editor they are using from one of
those other guys or about the one they just cobbled together editor
from EMACS, VIM or Notepad, for instance. Eclipse is a full blown
IDE. Eclipse has hundreds of millions of development dollars. Would
Brian and I love have that much money to create a specific U2 IDE?
Well, we don't have that money and no one is offering it to any of us.
How does XLr8Editor make me more efficient? Hmm:
Local History:
In Eclipse every change made is saved in local history. I keep 200
program changes locally for each program. If I'm changing a program
and want to go back to my 10:30am revision or look at the changes I
made at 10:30am version against my current version with the built in compare
editor. I can.
Copy and Past:
If I want to copy code or data into another directory or file, I never
have to go to telnet or use any other tool because I can copy and
paste from within Eclipse. I can copy megabytes per second using the
U2 UOJ interface locally faster than you can use the COPY command.
Search:
If I want to search a program file of 7000 programs for a specific
line or segment of code using grep syntax. I issue the search on my
local drive without impacting the database server and it comes back faster than
ESEARCH.
I can do other things while it is searching. Eclipse saves all of
my search in history so I don't have to do any of them again. Eclipse
displays the matching line of code in the search box, so I have to do
is click on and Eclipse opens the editor to that very line.
Version Control:
Eclipse has built in version control. You can even hookup to
Microsoft's Team Foundation Server because Microsoft built an Eclipse
plug-in. Maybe Microsoft knows something we should know. There are
other version control plug-ins for CVS, Subversion, GIT, and Perforce.
If you save an hour a week, at the end of year your savings easily
justifies the cost if you programmers are making a $1.00 per hour.
Really, is free worth it!
Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com/tools.html
"XLr8Editor for the Universe and Unidata"
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