Hi Keith, I suggest we just drop this. Please read below:
On 06/22/2015 08:46 AM, Keith I Myers wrote:
Hello All,
I will be reaching out to this person this afternoon to try to get his
side of the story. We will all agree that the posting on CraigsList is
extremely vague and leaves A LOT of room for speculation and the
article on Softpedia covering the story was written in a way that it
could incite anger, lets not fall for it until we get both sides of
the story. A journalist should NEVER publish a one sided story without
at least making an attempt to reach out to the other party involved.
Lets not question this persons intelligence or resort to insults.
If this person is actually charging users $30.00 to install Ubuntu
Gnome on their machine and make sure everything works, then this
person is doing nothing wrong and in many ways should be an
inspiration to the community as this person is helping to spread
Ubuntu Gnome to his local area. I personally would love to see such
grass-root businesses spring up all over the place to not only do the
install but also provide support. If this is the case, I will ask this
person to re-write the CraigsList posting to be much more clear and in
a way that it respects the Ubuntu and Gnome trademarks.
We don't know what the person's limitations might be ........ maybe
English is not his/her native language. Why stir the pot? Is he actually
doing anyone any harm? Has anyone actually complained that they've been
negatively impacted (aka; ripped off)?
I truly suggest we just drop this to avoid sounding like a bunch of kids
fighting over who gets to use the sand box.
Lance
However if this person is simply downloading the ISO and burning it to
a DVD/Flash Drive then I will try my best to educate him about the
ethical issues of selling "free software". I would ask that he
discontinue this and if it does continue then we will need to decide
our next steps.
Even then I see no real problem. I've created a vast number of live
DVD's at no cost to the recipient, but I do accept donations to cover my
out-of-pocket costs. Live USB's w/persistence are a different story. The
cost of USB sticks varies greatly but $30 is about what I charge for a
32GB live USB, again just to recover my out-of-pocket costs and a bit
for my time.
I will try to reach out to this person after my morning meetings and
report back to the community with what happens.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Tim <dark...@fastmail.fm
<mailto:dark...@fastmail.fm>> wrote:
On 22/06/15 21:36, Andrés Muñiz Piniella wrote:
>
> El 22 de junio de 2015 10:35:58 GMT+01:00, Tim
<dark...@fastmail.fm <mailto:dark...@fastmail.fm>> escribió:
>> Why is everyone getting so worked up about this?
>
> Actually from reading this
>
> http://www.ubuntu.com/about/about-ubuntu/licensing
its even stated on that page, and I quote
"While Ubuntu will not charge licence fees for this distribution,
you might want to charge to print Ubuntu CDs, or create your own
customised
versions of Ubuntu which you sell, and should have the freedom to
do so."
Of course they have tightened up the trademark rules a bit since
that was written, however it should still apply to unmodified images.
>
> And listening to the interview here
>
http://linuxluddites.com/ogg/podcast-43-ogg/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+LinuxLudditesOgg+%28Linux+Luddites+%C2%BB+Ogg%29
I don't have time to listen to random interviews, but really I
don't see what all fuss is about. Softpedia are click-baiting and
hyping things
up. But what would I know, I'm only the co-founder and Technical
lead of Ubuntu GNOME....
>
>
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