> Citrix Client run on a lot of OS including iphone/iPad. If the OS runs > on a specific HW, then the Citrix Client runs on it. Great, take your calculator and compare Citrix Licence cost + Thinclient cost + remote OS cost + ThinClient Managament tools > You can setup Chip-Card Access on Citrix too. Follow me Sessions where > on Citrix in MetaFrame XP 8 years ago... Probably, but not Citrix native, certainly a third party HW as usual, with its own "ThinClient" matrix compatibility matrix, and Card compatibiltiy matrix ... just adding some complexity > Screens aren't relevant. Yes they are. Talk to a trader. Talk to a developper. Talk to a CAD designer. Talk to someone who is supervising monitor tools.
> You need Apps (the success of iPhone). Citrix has puplished apps for > years. You can run the apps independent on which Server the app is > presented. > Yes, and more specifically independant from the Desktop :) that's the idea of Sun Ray. Buy the way, There is a Citrix Agent Client for Solaris, compatible with Sun Ray. >> And what is cool is that you take take over your session from outside >> the company with the Sun Desktop Access Client (SDAC), on a desktop >> or a laptop. > all available on Citrix too - no leading technology, sorry! > Wrong. is there any Think Client built and supported by Citrix including a card reader ? >> Need to access Linux OS from Sun Ray ? Choose Sun Ray Server Software >> for RHEL or SLES > On an Application presented by Citrix like VNC or xMing you can > connect to each XServer - without additional Software installed. The > Network between the Servers should be very fast. Commonly on the same > Subnet. > Great, you pointed out the weak point of citrix: bandwidth. Read this http://blogs.sun.com/ThinGuy/entry/sun_ray_bandwidth > >> Need access on a mobile ? Sorry, that's not the target of Sun Ray. > Why not? Do you still believe in Standard > Client-/Server-Infrastrukture as defined 10 or 15 years ago?? knock > knock ... wake up Neo! > The range of client devices are changing. If you can't grant access > from such devices you can't sell your products. > Well, there are still people working in offices. The mobile is not everything. Did you write this post from your mobile ? I dont' know anyone doing serious software developement from a mobile, nor reading/writing technical content from a mobile. Sitdown and continue working. > >> The target is to have a enterprise Lightweight Desktop. But, if you >> need to >> access your desktop/applications from a browser (Mobile Java based), >> it's still possible with SSGD (Sun Secure Global Desktop). > Java became faster... but the GUI still sucks! And JVM needs a lot of > memory these days! Possibly too hungry for mobile devices. > hello, did you hear about JavaFX. Are you connected to the internet ? > And if you compare the price of your Lightweight Desktop (700$ upward) > with a strong FAT-Client for the same or cheaper Price - why should i > buy less when i can get more? (For example mac mini, same starting price) > I encourage you to read and understand http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_cost_of_ownership So, you said it's cheap with 700$ per desktop. And what about the yearly salary of the team who is managing all that stuff to deploying/patching/replacing/upgrade ? plus all the licences/support to upgrade BIOS/EFI ? plus the tools to apply SW patches ? anti-virus deployment ? security fixes ? integrating new "motherboards" ? are there in the 700$ ? > Sorry for representing the position of Citrix and argueing against > sun's competing solution. I try to stay objective. Sun had it's > strenght/leading on a lot of products but lost market share and it's > leading position on several products. > > They are still leading on some products. I hope Oracle knows and focus > on them and release the rest to OpenSource. This is another story. But don't forget, Open doesn't mean free. > > The Time will show what will happen... until then, keep your eyes and > your mind open. Same to you :) Best regards Karim
