If I were looking at the University landscape today, I'd be torn too.  
A serious university will give you some serious skills, and a clear  
advantage. But piling up $80k before you have a job, is daunting. I'd  
seriously consider a community college or UVU. Regardless, you'll have  
to work like crazy to get some real experience. So, yes, get in on  
some projects. Try to become an intern or donate for a non-profit.

The problem is that the people graduating from these popup  
universities like Phoenix, aren't getting great skills. But they are  
getting great debt. It's all about collecting money, much more than  
educating. I think they're being ripped off, and they're being allowed  
to get away with it. I think for sure this is the worst choice you  
could make.

I've worked with some guys who did not have CS degrees, but were  
better than some other guys who did. He just didn't have the money.  
But he was smart and applied himself, did a lot of reading, and he  
proved it every day.

-- Cole

Quoting Kevin Jensen <[email protected]>:

> They cut the program shortly after the merger. :( They offer an associates
> and a masters.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Kyle Waters <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> On 03/24/2014 04:14 PM, Kevin Jensen wrote:
>> > I've enjoyed the answers thus far, but I do want to ask a followup
>> > question. I am currently attending University of Phoenix and *have *found
>> > it to be an expensive self education. Would my time and money be better
>> > placed in putting together a portfolio of projects that show what I
>> already
>> > know as well as continue with self teaching? (I live in Price and it
>> would
>> > take a while to get up to UVU or anywhere that has a computer science or
>> > software engineering degree)
>> >
>>
>>
>> Does CEU not offer a computer science degree through their USU affiliation?
>>
>> Kyle
>>
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