Hello, Frédéric- Do you have specific questions about Jasig's mobile framework? What kind of information would be helpful to you?
Thanks, Jonathan 2010/11/26 Frédéric Ravetier <frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com> > Hello, > > Can you please give us more technical detail about your implementations > please? We may change our way to do it soon. > > Regards, > Fred > > Le 23/11/2010 16:51, Jennifer Bourey a écrit : > > Hi Frédéric, > > While Jasig doesn't use JSF, we've so far developed several portlets that > are capable of displaying both mobile and desktop views. The development > strategy so far has been fairly straightforward, and I believe fairly > successfully. Most of our portlets use Spring 2.5 with annotation-based > controllers, combined with JSTL-based JSPs for the view layer. > > We've generally written some sort of IViewSelector interface to assign > JSPs appropriately to user requests. It's worth noting that often these > take both the browser's user agent and the portlet window state into > consideration (we've found that often the non-focused view of portlets looks > similar, or even overlaps with, the mobile view). If you're interested in > looking at sample mobile/desktop portlets that Jasig has already developed, > the Calendar, Announcements, and Course Schedule portlets might all be good > candidates. > > Jasig makes an effort to ensure that portlets can be used in portals > other than uPortal, and the view selector interface allows adopters to > potentially plug in another implementation if the default doesn't work for > the selected environment. For example, in Liferay 5.x it's not possible to > get the user-agent from the portlet request properties list, but we were > able to get around that issue with an alternate implementation. > > It seems like moving from custom regex parsing to using WURFL might be an > improvement for browser detection. I know that's a library that Steve > Swinsburg recommended in an earlier thread as well. I have to admit that > I'm not personally familiar with WNG, so I'm not quite sure what use case > its designed to meet. I'll certainly take a look at it, but I'd love to > hear what you all are planning to use it for. > > The one note of caution about user agent-based view selection is that > we've recently discussed a requirement for allowing users to select which > portal view is displayed on a mobile device. For example, an iPhone user > might decide for some reason that they'd like to toggle between the > full/desktop and mobile views of the portal. To be able to implement that > sort of feature, we'd need to have the portal get some sort of string > representing the current portal theme and perform view selection based on > that, rather than the user agent string. We've initially had reservations > about doing this since it seems like it would bring too much information > about uportal into the portlet, but it seems like that feature is going to > be increasingly expected from a mobile portal. > > I noticed that your list of desired mobile portlets does overlap > significantly with some of the current Jasig portlets. The Jasig calendar > portlet already has a mobile view, and Jasig also has RSS (News Reader) and > LDAP directory search (called the Tabbed Search Portlet) that seem likely to > acquire mobile views sometime soon. I don't know if any of those might meet > your needs, or be a suitable starting point for adding new features, but it > would be terrific to be able to collaborate on mobile development between > Jasig and ESUP Portail. > > One last technical clarification: If this work is targeting uPortal 3.2, > it seems like a Tomcat filter might not be a viable option. I believe it's > the case that filters can't be applied to portlet requests until JSR-286, > which uPortal does not support. However, as I've described above, we've > been successful with performing JSP view selection from Spring-based portlet > controllers. > > - Jen > > > On Nov 22, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote: > > Hello, > > I am the project manager for the "ESUP Mobile Project", working at > Anyware-Services. > We started the development last week. Our first portlet is a portlet to > display messages (email from an IMAP server that is under CAS). > Note that most of the ESUP portlet are using JSF (which is a real > difficulty to use the taglib WNG from Wurfl with JSF). Also the goal is to > have a multi-channel portlet (available to display data on mobile and > desktop). > > Our strategy is: > 1- to develop a web portlet with a default and simple skin (based on JSF) > 2- build a filter (tomcat filter) based on WURFL to detect if the user is > using a mobile or a desktop browser > 3- make a mechanism to choose the JSP depending of the detection (mobile to > use WNG taglib - from WURFL - or desktop to use classic JSF taglib) > 4- modify the WNG taglib to work in an JSF environment. > > The last step may failed or may be too hard or too complicate to maintain. > In this case we will reduce our constraints and we will use another taglib > to render data to mobile. We already think about Trinidad. If you have > suggestion I am open to them. We'd like to avoid framework or library that > are only webkit compatible, because we'd like to support many mobile > browsers and not only iphone and smartphone. It is a wish that can be reduce > depending on the complexity and the maintainability. > > Why WURFL, because it is THE taglib known by most of the mobile developers > that want a real compatibility with most of the mobiles. > > We are currently at step 2. We made the step 1 with some small doubt on > step 1 because of the CAS environment, we do not have an IMAP that support > CAS here. > > Do you have suggestions? > Do you have others informations? > Do not hesitate to contact me in order to have more information or to share > some knowledge. > > Then we will have some others portlet to enhance or to develop (Calendar, > Directory based on LDAP, news, ...) > > Let me know if you prefer another discussion channel than this one. > > Sincerely, > > Frédéric Ravetier > Project Manager > Anyware-Services (www.anyware-services.com) > frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com > Phone: +33 5 62 19 19 03 > Ametys: The CMS Java Open Source www.ametys.org > > > Le 22/11/2010 16:03, Jonathan Markow a écrit : > > I recently had a conversation with Alain Mayeur, director of ESUP Portail, > the nation-wide consortium of French universities that have developed a > "Digital Work Space" based on uPortal, CAS, and a host of other open source > applications that they have developed or integrated. Alain told me about > two projects currently underway that are of interest to Jasig. > > The first one is the ESUP Mobile Project. With several participating > universities, this project is working to coordinate the development of > mobile services supported by the mobile framework in uPortal 3.2. The wiki > page for the project (in French) is located at > http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJESUPMOBILE/Projet+ESUP+Mobile. > > A second project, also the result of a collaboration among several > organizations, is designed to enhance the content management capabilities of > uPortal. > > Alain will ask the project leads to send us more information about these > initiatives. I am hoping there might be some areas in which Jasig > developers would be able to contribute. > > -Jonathan > > -- > > You are currently subscribed to uportal-dev@lists.ja-sig.org as: > frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com > To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see > http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/uportal-dev > > > -- > > You are currently subscribed to uportal-dev@lists.ja-sig.org as: > jennifer.bou...@gmail.com > To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see > http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/uportal-dev > > > > -- > <http://www.anyware-services.com> > www.anyware-services.com *Frédéric Ravetier* > Chef de projet > > frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com > Tel : +33(0)5 62 19 19 03 > > Fax : +33(0)5 61 75 84 12 > Adresse : Innopole 13 - L'Occitane - B.P 97672 - 31676 LABEGE CEDEX - > France > > Ametys: le CMS Web Java Open Source > <http://www.ametys.org> www.ametys.org > Ce message et toutes les pièces jointes (le "Message") sont confidentiels > et établis à l'intention exclusive de ses destinataires. > Toute modification, édition, utilisation ou diffusion non autorisée est > interdite. > Anyware Services décline toute responsabilité au titre de ce Message s'il a > été altéré, déformé, falsifié ou édité, diffusé sans autorisation. > > -- > > You are currently subscribed to uportal-dev@lists.ja-sig.org as: > jjmar...@jasig.org > To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see > http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/uportal-dev > > -- You are currently subscribed to uportal-dev@lists.ja-sig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/uportal-dev
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