Hi Fred, > We are going to study another way to display views on mobile than WURFL/WNG > because there are too many problem with this library
Could you expand a little on what issues you've found with WURFL? cheers, Steve On 27/11/2010, at 3:58 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote: > Hello all, > > Thanks Xavier for your answer. > > I'd like to adjust something that I said because I wrote my answer too > quickly :). The project managers of "ESUP Mobile" are Xavier Petard and > Francis Forbeau. I am the project manager of a project for Paris Universities > where we are going to develop portlets for web and mobiles. > > We are going to study another way to display views on mobile than WURFL/WNG > because there are too many problem with this library. I will contact Xavier > to share our experiences. I will let you know about our progress. > > Best regards, > Fred > > > > > > Le 23/11/2010 17:49, Xavier Pétard a écrit : >> >> Hi all, >> >> our wiki pages about ESUP Mobile are in French, and before I have enough >> time to explain precisely what we have done or want to do, let me sketch it. >> We want to : >> provide help for our community on mobile-ready uportal packages (hence our >> emails about lost sessions in 3.2.4) ; >> provide a list of tested mobile portlets, whether coming from jasig or done >> locally ; >> provide a framework to ease portlets development. We are currently rewriting >> our esup-commons framework, to be less tied to specific rendering methods : >> some developers here use JSF (Trinidad for mobile compliance, >> http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJCOMMONS/Esup-commons-jsf-trinidad), >> some others SpringMVC >> (http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJCANSTOCK/Esup+Portlet+Stockage). >> The last version is not anymore, like Frederic Ravetier mentioned, tied to >> JSF. Anyway, all the improvements made on the JSF part will >> certainly be included ;-) >> We know for sure we will have to write different views between desktop and >> mobile, but one of the main questions now is device detection, which has to >> be consistent between portal and portlets, user being able to switch between >> views. >> >> Thanks to Frederic Ravetier, he was quicker than me talking about ESUP >> Mobile. Anyware-Services is working with us on the project, with the Paris >> Universities (UNR Paris Ile de France). >> >> Xavier Pétard >> ESUP Portail >> >> >> >> Le 22/11/10 19:12, Jen Bourey a écrit : >>> >>> Hi Frederic, >>> >>> It's great to hear from you, and I'm looking forward to Jasig and Esup >>> Portail collaborating on mobile development. I've been involved in both >>> the mobile theme development for uPortal, as well as some of the mobile >>> portlet development. I'm traveling for the holidays today, but I'll try to >>> compose a summary of what I know of the current state of mobile support in >>> uPortal trunk, as well as some of the changes we've talked about making. >>> >>> - Jen >>> >>> >>> On Nov 22, 2010, at 7:59 AM, Frédéric Ravetier wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I am the project manager for the "ESUP Mobile Project", working at >>>> Anyware-Services. >>>> We started the development last week. Our first portlet is a portlet to >>>> display messages (email from an IMAP server that is under CAS). >>>> Note that most of the ESUP portlet are using JSF (which is a real >>>> difficulty to use the taglib WNG from Wurfl with JSF). Also the goal is to >>>> have a multi-channel portlet (available to display data on mobile and >>>> desktop). >>>> >>>> Our strategy is: >>>> 1- to develop a web portlet with a default and simple skin (based on JSF) >>>> 2- build a filter (tomcat filter) based on WURFL to detect if the user is >>>> using a mobile or a desktop browser >>>> 3- make a mechanism to choose the JSP depending of the detection (mobile >>>> to use WNG taglib - from WURFL - or desktop to use classic JSF taglib) >>>> 4- modify the WNG taglib to work in an JSF environment. >>>> >>>> The last step may failed or may be too hard or too complicate to maintain. >>>> In this case we will reduce our constraints and we will use another taglib >>>> to render data to mobile. We already think about Trinidad. If you have >>>> suggestion I am open to them. We'd like to avoid framework or library that >>>> are only webkit compatible, because we'd like to support many mobile >>>> browsers and not only iphone and smartphone. It is a wish that can be >>>> reduce depending on the complexity and the maintainability. >>>> >>>> Why WURFL, because it is THE taglib known by most of the mobile developers >>>> that want a real compatibility with most of the mobiles. >>>> >>>> We are currently at step 2. We made the step 1 with some small doubt on >>>> step 1 because of the CAS environment, we do not have an IMAP that support >>>> CAS here. >>>> >>>> Do you have suggestions? >>>> Do you have others informations? >>>> Do not hesitate to contact me in order to have more information or to >>>> share some knowledge. >>>> >>>> Then we will have some others portlet to enhance or to develop (Calendar, >>>> Directory based on LDAP, news, ...) >>>> >>>> Let me know if you prefer another discussion channel than this one. >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Frédéric Ravetier >>>> Project Manager >>>> Anyware-Services (www.anyware-services.com) >>>> frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com >>>> Phone: +33 5 62 19 19 03 >>>> Ametys: The CMS Java Open Source www.ametys.org >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 22/11/2010 16:03, Jonathan Markow a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> I recently had a conversation with Alain Mayeur, director of ESUP >>>>> Portail, the nation-wide consortium of French universities that have >>>>> developed a "Digital Work Space" based on uPortal, CAS, and a host of >>>>> other open source applications that they have developed or integrated. >>>>> Alain told me about two projects currently underway that are of interest >>>>> to Jasig. >>>>> >>>>> The first one is the ESUP Mobile Project. With several participating >>>>> universities, this project is working to coordinate the development of >>>>> mobile services supported by the mobile framework in uPortal 3.2. The >>>>> wiki page for the project (in French) is located at >>>>> http://www.esup-portail.org/display/PROJESUPMOBILE/Projet+ESUP+Mobile. >>>>> >>>>> A second project, also the result of a collaboration among several >>>>> organizations, is designed to enhance the content management capabilities >>>>> of uPortal. >>>>> >>>>> Alain will ask the project leads to send us more information about these >>>>> initiatives. I am hoping there might be some areas in which Jasig >>>>> developers would be able to contribute. >>>>> >>>>> -Jonathan >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> You are currently subscribed to uportal-dev@lists.ja-sig.org as: >>>>> frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com >>>>> To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see >>>>> http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/uportal-dev >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> You are currently subscribed to uportal-dev@lists.ja-sig.org as: >>>> jennifer.bou...@gmail.com >>>> To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see >>>> http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/uportal-dev >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You are currently subscribed to uportal-dev@lists.ja-sig.org as: >>> xavier.pet...@univ-lr.fr >>> To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see >>> http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/uportal-dev >> >> >> -- >> Xavier Pétard >> Centre de Ressources Informatiques >> Université de La Rochelle >> http://www.univ-larochelle.fr >> -- >> >> You are currently subscribed to uportal-dev@lists.ja-sig.org as: >> frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com >> To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see >> http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/uportal-dev > > -- > <anyware-services.png> > www.anyware-services.com > Frédéric Ravetier > Chef de projet > frederic.ravet...@anyware-services.com > Tel : +33(0)5 62 19 19 03 > Fax : +33(0)5 61 75 84 12 > Adresse : Innopole 13 - L'Occitane - B.P 97672 - 31676 LABEGE CEDEX - France > > Ametys: le CMS Web Java Open Source > <runtime_favico.gif> www.ametys.org Ce message et toutes les pièces jointes > (le "Message") sont confidentiels et établis à l'intention exclusive de ses > destinataires. > Toute modification, édition, utilisation ou diffusion non autorisée est > interdite. > Anyware Services décline toute responsabilité au titre de ce Message s'il a > été altéré, déformé, falsifié ou édité, diffusé sans autorisation. > -- > > You are currently subscribed to uportal-dev@lists.ja-sig.org as: > steve.swinsb...@gmail.com > To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see > http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/uportal-dev -- You are currently subscribed to uportal-dev@lists.ja-sig.org as: arch...@mail-archive.com To unsubscribe, change settings or access archives, see http://www.ja-sig.org/wiki/display/JSG/uportal-dev
