From: "Outback Dingo" <outbackdi...@gmail.com>
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Sent: Monday, 24 November, 2014 22:15:40
Subject: Re: Xenserver and CEPH ?
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Sebastien Goasguen <run...@gmail.com>
wrote:
On Nov 24, 2014, at 4:03 PM, Andrei Mikhailovsky <and...@arhont.com>
wrote:
Yes, agree! Proper snapshotting is a must and an essential part of the
cloud in my world. Having this feature broken in KVM for many years is a
big blow to CloudStack in my opinion.
I am already seeing on blogs and mailing lists people switching to
OpenStack because of this problem.
there are many aspects of which cloustack is loosing ground fast to
openstack. Even Ive moved away from CS due to deficiencies such as the NFS
as secondary being required, vague support for open source SDN such as
opendaylight, is another
while CS is nice and quite easy to install, and get working, and being a
big XEN fan, CS made it clean and simply to deploy, however, it does lack
some of the higher end features and configuration aspects that are found in
openstack. Now while I
also find openstack to be very KVM aligned, as it requires a client be
installed on XEN, where CS doesnt, Openstack has moved well ahead in
storage and networking options, not boxing me in to high cost commercial
solutions. I will credit CS people
for great support in the past years over IRC, though lately even that seems
waning, as as such there also seems to be more "commercial" support for
openstack with the likes of mirantis, ibm, hp and others pushing turn key
distros, open source some at that.
I did love the simplicity of CS and XEN as a configuration, but felt the
lacking in areas of "integration" with other technologies. Even openstack
is working to integrate the freeIpa system, and opendaylight into the
options, and it works well with ceph, gluster,
and other storage systems. CS is simple, and in being that, they are
loosing ground fast to the expansive capabilities openstack is offering
with their latest release. I wish CS would expand their horizons a bit, and
not appear so short sighted and narrow minded
when it came to its offerings and integration. I know if I was running the
product line currently I would be aligning CS with all the technologies
becoming available, especially Software defined networking, and software
defined storage. CS is great, but requires
a larger feature set, more integration and further vision on trending
technologies, yet it is just damn simple to install CS and XEN...... a big
win there for CS, though Fuel and Helion appear to be quickly closing that
gap.
Can you send links, I am curious !
thxs
I hate to see people leaving CloudStack as I think it's fantastic
project and a really great community!
Andrei
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrija Panic" <andrija.pa...@gmail.com>
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Sent: Monday, 24 November, 2014 8:33:56 PM
Subject: Re: Xenserver and CEPH ?
So no CEPH support fot Xen, and no VM snapshot for KVM.
So, should I shoot my self with gun or with the pistol, that is the
question now :)
thx folks
On 24 November 2014 at 18:01, Adrian Lewis
<adr...@alsiconsulting.co.uk>
wrote:
From what I've read there won’t be support for Ceph in Creedence
(Xenserver
6.5) but it is on the cards for the following release (as should
NFSv4 and
a
Centos 7 dom0). There's a blog post from Tim Mackey at:
http://xenserver.org/discuss-virtualization/virtualization-blog/entry/beyond-creedence-xenserver-2015-planning.html
and a Youtube video with a few updates here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JFUkEfpXaQ
All looks promising but I'm impatient :-(
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrija Panic [mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com]
Sent: 24 November 2014 15:08
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Xenserver and CEPH ?
THx Vadim - yes, I'm already using KVM with ceph for some time -
works fine
more or less :) thx
On 24 November 2014 at 15:52, Vadim Kimlaychuk
<vadim.kimlayc...@elion.ee>
wrote:
XenServer 6.5 (or 7.0) is not released yet. You can download
alpha of
next release and try it, but it is definately not for production.
I
haven't personally tried it because Cloudstack does not support
RBD
storage type for XenServer yet. So you are absolutely right --
first
we need to wait for XenServer to release then we need to wait for
Cloudstack to implement those changes at backend.
I have used Ceph with KVM hypervisor for a short while. There
were
some points that I was not aware, but in general it worked well.
Vadim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrija Panic [mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 4:22 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: Xenserver and CEPH ?
HI Vadim, thanks for info. That is what I understood = but the
new
XenServer 6.5 or whatever the name, shoudl be using kernel 3.10.x
for
dom0, so I guess even after that is supported, we will need to
wait
some time for the CloudStack implementation on this ?
Thanks anyway
On 24 November 2014 at 15:00, Vadim Kimlaychuk
<vadim.kimlayc...@elion.ee>
wrote:
Hi Andrija,
For XenServer 6.2 it is not possible yet. Look for supported
SR-s
here:
http://docs.vmd.citrix.com/XenServer/6.2.0/1.0/en_gb/reference.html#ck
_reference_storage_repository_types
Somewhere in internet I saw information that RBD support is
scheduled for the next major XenServer release. Can't find the
link
right away.
The problem connected to Ceph + RBD as primary storage for
XenServer is old dom0 kernel that does not allow RBD storage
type.
Regards,
Vadim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Andrija Panic [mailto:andrija.pa...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2014 2:06 PM
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Xenserver and CEPH ?
Hi guys,
anyone running ZenServer with CEPH as primary storage ?
I read some info that there is support for CEPH inside
XenServer
from last year - but since I never actually tried this - thus
the
question.
Thanks,
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Andrija Panić
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