I can't help but feel you are confusing the discussion on CD with CI
which to me, is mostly a natural progression and maturity of a good
build system.

The other good news is, you don't have to use it foolishly if you choose
not too! ;-)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com] 
> Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:28 AM
> To: users@maven.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Continuous Delivery and Maven
> 
> On 15/11/2010 8:18 AM, Yanko, Curtis wrote:
> > You're happy about NOT using CI????
> >
> Yes. It seems to be a tool that is prone to being used foolishly.
> 
> We are a small shop maintaining and developing a large 
> (70+POM files) portal application with portlets, web 
> services, servlets and batch process and do not seem to  have 
> the types of issues that the people, trying to use CI, bring 
> to the table.
> 
> They seem to get into all kinds of troubles with SNAPSHOTs, 
> build repeatability, source control and architectures that 
> are too interdependent.
> I can not see how they ever test anything with a continually 
> unstable CI build.
> 
> Of course, I know that I am only seeing the worst cases in 
> the forum so my mind is not completely closed on the subject.
> I can hardly wait until we have a "Best Practice" section on 
> the Maven site so that I can see how a CI should be 
> integrated into a Maven environment and perhaps that will 
> make me unhappy that I an not using CI.
> 
> 
> Ron
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:rwhee...@artifact-software.com]
> >> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 2:05 PM
> >> To: users@maven.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Continuous Delivery and Maven
> >>
> >> I would add the following bits of reality.
> >> We don't use CI and a lot of the discussion makes me very 
> happy about 
> >> that.
> >>
> >
> > -Curt
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