Curt makes a good point - you can do CI without doing CD. The snapshot stuff works just fine with CI.
It seems to be a tool that is prone to being used foolishly I think that's probably true of any sufficiently powerful tool or technique. Jez. On 15 November 2010 10:23, Yanko, Curtis [via Maven] < ml-node+3266162-1775935974-143...@n5.nabble.com<ml-node%2b3266162-1775935974-143...@n5.nabble.com> > wrote: > I can't help but feel you are confusing the discussion on CD with CI > which to me, is mostly a natural progression and maturity of a good > build system. > > The other good news is, you don't have to use it foolishly if you choose > not too! ;-) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:[hidden > > email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3266162&i=0>] > > > Sent: Monday, November 15, 2010 10:28 AM > > To: [hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3266162&i=1> > > Subject: Re: Continuous Delivery and Maven > > > > On 15/11/2010 8:18 AM, Yanko, Curtis wrote: > > > You're happy about NOT using CI???? > > > > > Yes. It seems to be a tool that is prone to being used foolishly. > > > > We are a small shop maintaining and developing a large > > (70+POM files) portal application with portlets, web > > services, servlets and batch process and do not seem to have > > the types of issues that the people, trying to use CI, bring > > to the table. > > > > They seem to get into all kinds of troubles with SNAPSHOTs, > > build repeatability, source control and architectures that > > are too interdependent. > > I can not see how they ever test anything with a continually > > unstable CI build. > > > > Of course, I know that I am only seeing the worst cases in > > the forum so my mind is not completely closed on the subject. > > I can hardly wait until we have a "Best Practice" section on > > the Maven site so that I can see how a CI should be > > integrated into a Maven environment and perhaps that will > > make me unhappy that I an not using CI. > > > > > > Ron > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:[hidden > > >> email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3266162&i=2>] > > > >> Sent: Saturday, November 13, 2010 2:05 PM > > >> To: [hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=3266162&i=3> > > >> Subject: Re: Continuous Delivery and Maven > > >> > > >> I would add the following bits of reality. > > >> We don't use CI and a lot of the discussion makes me very > > happy about > > >> that. > > >> > > > > > > -Curt > > > > > > This e-mail, including attachments, may include confidential and/or > > > proprietary information, and may be used only by the person > > or entity > > > to which it is addressed. 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