Hello,

Normally I wouldn't jump in on a technical mailing list such as this,
but I was pointed to the archives by someone on the list and saw that
someone was asking specific questions on how we operate. I hope I can
clear up some stuff and answer any questions.

We are an ESP. We have over 250,000 customers. We cater mostly to
small businesses and non-profits.  The majority of our customers are
businesses or organizations with less than 5 employees who don't have
an IT or a marketing department.  Our product is a do-it yourself type
thing with lots of online help. despite the large numbers we do a lot
to vet our customers. They are required to have permission, but the
real test is how we enforce that.  We do a lot at list upload time
before they ever mail, scanning lists for things that would indicate
it isn't permission based.  We have a large database of spamtraps
(donated mostly by anti-spammers), and we also look for things such as
role addresses.  There is more but I can't give away the whole secret
sauce for obvious reasons. After an automated review there is usually
a "list review" on the phone with a human in our call center.  There
customers are required to explain how they have permission to mail
etc. If someone makes it through that we then rely on spam complaints
after they mail.  We are signed up for all feedbackloops available and
also get plenty of direct abuse@ complaints as well.  We terminate
many customers every day, most of them before they ever mail. Most of
the people who are bumped from our system are not your average
malicous spammers but businesses who were misled, misinformed, or are
just plain lacking in clue. We educate those we can and terminate the
rest.  We do have the occasional outright malicious spammer and we are
constantly tweaking our automated upload checks to improve them.

As for the whitelisting mentioned in this thread, we are aware of it
and in both cases (barracuda and SA skipcheck) we found out after the
fact and I can confirm no money changed hands.  We work closely with
Barracuda when they get spam complaints from their customers regarding
us, the decision to whitelist us was theirs alone but it seems it was
due to user feedback.  When their product would occasionally block our
mail their users would complain much louder.

If anyone has spam from us they'd like our compliance group to look at
I can send it over, please feel free to send it to me and I'll see
what I can share with you about the outcome.  You can always send to
abuse@ but will likely not get anything more than the auto-ack.

I'm sorry for the intrusion on your list and I don't want this to get
too off topic so please feel free to reply to me off list.

Tara Natanson
Constant Contact
Mail Operations
tnatan...@constantcontact.com

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