IMHO the keys fo JSF "success" are: -They sell it as a standard with companies backing it up. It doesn't matter if it is an over complicated model and that you need things like JBoss Seam to fix it. On many companies decisions are taken by pointy haired bosses... and they like to hear to the words "standard" and "official support". So, if things go wild they have "support"... and some one else to blame. -It is more easy to find developers knowing (willing to learn) JSF... At least on Spain it is rather difficult to find Job opportunities as a Wicket developer or as a Tapestry or as that-ever-else != (struts or JSF)-developer.
I love Wicket and the natural approach it offers to do web-development... and I have been pushing hard to use it whenever possible... but on the "real world" it is not enough to be an excellent product to gain wide acceptance... Does last sentence ring a bell? Best, Ernesto On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Chris Colman <chr...@stepaheadsoftware.com > wrote: > > > > I know JSF is standard; what is your idea about current JSF > status? > > > > > > Just forget about it ... ;) > > Agreed! > > > JSF is way too complex for doing simple things. They -again- forgot > the > > KISS principle (Keep it Simple & Straightforward/Stupid). > > > > Wicket (but also Tapestry) is in my opinion a giant leap forward. I > > wondaer when the JSF spec will start look like this way of working... > > Probably never because often what starts out as an unjustifiable and > unattractive design that is adopted by people simply because it doesn't > stray too far from the legacy "framework" (JSP) soon becomes "justified" > on the basis of some irrational, semi religious beliefs. Once it reaches > that point there is no turning back because to change would be to admit > they weren't perfect at some point in the past. > > The good thing is that rational people are free to choose the best > solution regardless of what 'the standard' might be. > > It's a good thing that many programmers are usually freedom fighting > mavericks or we'd all be writing desktop apps in Visual Basic (not that > I ever used VB - I was more a C/C++ kind of guy =] ) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@wicket.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@wicket.apache.org > >
